Abortion

[PETA]

Originally Posted by Damnsammit

Also, I think the only people who can offer unbiased opinions on abortion are people without any children.

really? well that is a fucking stupid notion.

"Well, I can't have any opinion on genocide because I wasn't a Jew killed in Germany"

Originally Posted by Damnsammit

I don't know very many loving fathers and mothers who favor abortion in any way except to save the mothers life or rape.

me either

[90dayRichie]

this thread is kinda hard to jack off to...

[Damnsammit]

Originally Posted by xian

really? well that is a fucking stupid notion.

"Well, I can't have any opinion on genocide because I wasn't a Jew killed in Germany"

Nah, it's more like "I can't have an unbiased opinion on baby killing because I already chose not to and I have loving children and a great life because I chose not to kill my babies"

Just because abortion wasn't the right choice for you doesn't mean that it isn't the right choice for someone else... and remember women earned the RIGHT to have an abortion, so they should not be scrutinized for exercising that right.

All I am saying is that as a father with a few loving kids, your opinion is going to be biased towards pro-life.

As a guy who has no children, I can easily see a situation in which an abortion would be a better choice in some situations. With that being said, as a potential father, I can't imagine ever favoring abortion, but I do believe it is ultimately the woman's decision.

[PETA]

Originally Posted by Damnsammit

Just because abortion wasn't the right choice for you doesn't mean that it isn't the right choice for someone else...

I'll accept that as long as you, and that some one else making their "right choice" recognizes that the "right choice" just killed a baby.

Originally Posted by Damnsammit

and remember women earned the RIGHT to have an abortion, so they should not be scrutinized for exercising that right.

Earned? How is that? They didn't earn squat. SCOTUS carved out a right "emanating from the penumbra".... that means emanating from a shadow. A pretty riduculous legal basis. If a right can emanate from a shadow the court can create any right it wants... including the right of the gov't to prohibit all abortion... the right of the child to live is a stronger right that the right of privacy the court court could reason... and could claim it was hanging out in the shadow too.... There's no earned right at all here.

I'm not advocating scrutinizing the choice. I'm making the point that to many regard the issue too casually.

Originally Posted by Damnsammit

All I am saying is that as a father with a few loving kids, your opinion is going to be biased towards pro-life.

Sure. Does one need to be a parent to recognize that an abortion precludes those kids?

Originally Posted by Damnsammit

As a guy who has no children, I can easily see a situation in which an abortion would be a better choice in some situations. With that being said, as a potential father, I can't imagine ever favoring abortion, but I do believe it is ultimately the woman's decision.

A better choice... for whom? Certainly not the dead baby. Under what circumstances is it better to kill the baby than not?