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reason · 04-11-08, 12:30 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,349709,00.html

the case is some 17 year old girls beating an 18 year old... and are going to be tried as adults.

i have seen teenagers as young as 15 charged as adults in some cases like murder.... but not in other murder cases

so.. where do we draw the line..... where do we cross it?

PETA · 04-11-08, 12:51 PM

states define it in criminal codes.

in many states a juvenile above the age of X is automaticly waved into adult court for certain enumerated crimes. There is usually a hearing where the judge may waive them back into juvenile ct.

so, where's the line? depends on the state. go look up the crimnial code in that state

Rohan · 04-11-08, 01:01 PM

I think he's challenging the idea of adulthood magically being conferred upon people at 18. And I'm right on point with it -- but how do you propose to measure the place where formerly irresponsible, hormone-driven youngsters become logic-driven, big-picture, responsible types.

please let me know if you figure it out. i'm pretty sure i would fail said test at 29.

PETA · 04-11-08, 01:05 PM

moot, like a said, we can debate when an individual has become an adult but the law has to draw a line because it cannot make a subjective evaluation every time the issue arises... and I'da failed at 29 for sure

MC Twinkie · 04-11-08, 03:05 PM

If a kid shoots some its not like he is going to grow up to be a doctor with the proper counceling. What's the point of putting them in juvi? Take them out of society, and put the parents in jail with them. I don't really understand lesser sentances for under 18, maybe something like under 8 or 12, but kids are growing up quick these days and know whats right and wrong.

reason · 04-11-08, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clay donkey

If a kid shoots some its not like he is going to grow up to be a doctor with the proper counceling. What's the point of putting them in juvi? Take them out of society, and put the parents in jail with them. I don't really understand lesser sentances for under 18, maybe something like under 8 or 12, but kids are growing up quick these days and know whats right and wrong.

this is a great point

perhaps as time has passed... the cutoff should be evaluated... or at least adjusted to include amendments

PETA · 04-11-08, 03:39 PM

this issue has been research, litigated and analyzed to death....

you want to know where the lines are and why... do a little digging

reason · 04-11-08, 03:50 PM

i know i'm being lazy ... but it was just a thought

Nick · 04-14-08, 03:18 PM

http://www.salon.com/ent/video_dog/m...video_dog/misc

i've seen much harsher beat downs than that.. sheesh

lol...

04-11-08, 12:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
reason Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the mother ship Posts: 366	where is the line? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,349709,00.html the case is some 17 year old girls beating an 18 year old... and are going to be tried as adults. i have seen teenagers as young as 15 charged as adults in some cases like murder.... but not in other murder cases so.. where do we draw the line..... where do we cross it?

04-11-08, 01:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
Rohan Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: dangling by a thread Posts: 2,176	I think he's challenging the idea of adulthood magically being conferred upon people at 18. And I'm right on point with it -- but how do you propose to measure the place where formerly irresponsible, hormone-driven youngsters become logic-driven, big-picture, responsible types. please let me know if you figure it out. i'm pretty sure i would fail said test at 29. __________________ Originally Posted by jcs0112 ..."No Parking On The Motherfuckin' Dance Floor, Move To The Groove or Prepare To Be Removed"

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Nick Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,403	http://www.salon.com/ent/video_dog/m...video_dog/misc i've seen much harsher beat downs than that.. sheesh lol... __________________ www.myspace.com/nickshade1

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04-11-08, 12:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
PETA an apparition Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 38,656	states define it in criminal codes. in many states a juvenile above the age of X is automaticly waved into adult court for certain enumerated crimes. There is usually a hearing where the judge may waive them back into juvenile ct. so, where's the line? depends on the state. go look up the crimnial code in that state

04-11-08, 01:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
PETA an apparition Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 38,656	moot, like a said, we can debate when an individual has become an adult but the law has to draw a line because it cannot make a subjective evaluation every time the issue arises... and I'da failed at 29 for sure

04-11-08, 03:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
MC Twinkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: I'm always fresh and full of cream filling! Posts: 2,036	If a kid shoots some its not like he is going to grow up to be a doctor with the proper counceling. What's the point of putting them in juvi? Take them out of society, and put the parents in jail with them. I don't really understand lesser sentances for under 18, maybe something like under 8 or 12, but kids are growing up quick these days and know whats right and wrong.

04-11-08, 03:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
PETA an apparition Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 38,656	this issue has been research, litigated and analyzed to death.... you want to know where the lines are and why... do a little digging

04-11-08, 03:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
reason Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the mother ship Posts: 366	i know i'm being lazy ... but it was just a thought