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![]() | Thomas L. Friedman on our Energy Policy
He says it better than I can, so I'll just post this. Quote:
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Summary: our politicians have their head up Big Oil's collective ass
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xian, you don't like Friedman?
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how about respect... do you respect him? what exactly do you disagree with him on, can you give an example or two?
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I'm not digging up old articles for you. If he wrote it - I generally disagree. I think he presents himself honestly and his analysis generally reflects decent thinking but he operates from a different perspective. I disagree with assumptions about what goals are to be esteemed and what assumptions can be plugged into an analysis. He's a classic "world citizen" type lefty. I am anything but.
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hrm, I have a great deal of respect for Friedman and find his opinions on issues pretty much right in line with my own. What do you disagree with him on, Xian? Edit: nevermind. We're talking about the same Friedman? Pro-war, pro-free trade, pro-energy independent...that Friedman?
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You're thinking George Friedman.... a guy I rarely disagree with (if ever) in re Thomas: "One of Friedman's theses is that individual countries must sacrifice some degree of economic sovereignty to global institutions (such as capital markets and multinational corporations), a situation he has termed the "golden straightjacket". from wiki a thesis I find fundamentally flawed |
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well let's take the amount of respect and worldwide acclaim that Thomas Friedman has vs. what you have xian... yeah, that pretty much sums it up
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Indeed... one brilliant post after another from you. Fucking Castro has respect from millions world wide. Does that make my criticism of him and my disagreement with him invalid? No. It means you're a fool and a douchebag that cannot think. It pains you that you cannot formulate a reasonable argument on pretty much any theory or proposition you hold dear. That pisses you off. Because you know, in your heart - you really are a fool and you cannot change that no matter how many books you read and do not understand, no matter how many theories you bungle and trip over yourself trying to explain. You're bankrupt of tact, common sense and anything interesting to say. | |
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![]() | Our energy policy, or more precisely, the lack of one, is fucking us over. The notion that we are going to cut the federal gas tax for the summer to lower prices is absurd. That will increase demand and force us to borrow more from China while funding people we hate (saudi arabia.) A wiser use would be to stop debating the tax credits for solar/wind power/etc and give them, while taking the credits away from big oil. "But here’s what’s scary: our problem is so much worse than you think. We have no energy strategy. If you are going to use tax policy to shape energy strategy then you want to raise taxes on the things you want to discourage — gasoline consumption and gas-guzzling cars — and you want to lower taxes on the things you want to encourage — new, renewable energy technologies. We are doing just the opposite." Quote:
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I'm generally opposed to corporate welfare but tax credits granted for alternative energy exlporation and development seems a wise choice imo. Quote:
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What do you advise for the short term? The standard GOP response is "DRILL EVERYWHERE!!!" Meanwhile, it takes years and billions of dollars for these new fields to come into play for a limited and finite amount.
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