France may "breathalyze" clubs - Dallas Dance Music - Dallas nightlife, music, tickets, and more

zcwilly · 05-12-08, 04:32 PM

Say goodbye to the "good ol' days" if something like this ever passes in the US... not to mention how much biz the bars would lose.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7395401.stm

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France's cabinet is to hear a proposal to make breathalysers mandatory at late-night clubs and cafes from this summer when it meets on Monday.

The ecology and health ministers are due jointly to present a draft decree that applies to all such establishments remaining open until 0200.

Some 350 cafes and bars in western France have already run trials, Ecology Minister Jean-Louis Borloo said.

The move comes after a weekend of road accidents, some alcohol-related.

The Pentecostal holiday weekend saw at least 17 deaths in seven accidents, AFP news agency reports.

"Health Minister Roselyne Bachelot and I will present a decree to make electronic breathalyser tests obligatory in drinking establishments open until 0200 so that everyone can check their level, their condition upon leaving," Mr Borloo said on the France 2 television channel.

"I hope that by this summer, it will be obligatory in all such places."

In one of the weekend's worst accidents, four people aged between 15 and 26 were killed when the car they were in went off the road near Forbach, in eastern France.

Police said the 36-year-old driver, who survived, had been drinking.

PETA · 05-12-08, 04:38 PM

say hello to the rebirth of the underground party circuit if it does....

C-fer · 05-12-08, 05:08 PM

How about say hello to more people taking cabs?

zcwilly · 05-12-08, 05:12 PM

Public intox is a crime..

PETA · 05-12-08, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DjKrispy

How about say hello to more people taking cabs?

I find Dallas cab service to be the absolute worst of any city I have ever lived in

PETA · 05-12-08, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by zcwilly

Public intox is a crime..

Know your rights
These are your rights
All three of em
It has been suggested
In some quarters that this is not enough!
Well..............................

Get off the streets
Get off the streets

C-fer · 05-12-08, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by xian

I find Dallas cab service to be the absolute worst of any city I have ever lived in

Better crappy service, than in a car wreck caused by some drunk.
And I Haven't had any problems with north dallas cabs..

PETA · 05-12-08, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DjKrispy

Better crappy service, than in a car wreck caused by some drunk.
And I Haven't had any problems with north dallas cabs..

sure a cab is better than that... a cab is better than lots of bad choices. None of which have anything to do with the shitty cab service in Dallas.

BHAZ · 05-12-08, 05:54 PM

doesnt seem so bad to me, all it is doing is offering a service to customers, it doesnt say that it is manditory to use on your way out. but if there was a breathalizer avaliable to use to check if you had too much to drink i think it would benifit those people who use it. there are some bars in arizona that i have been to that have them. they cost a quarter to use and they have big signs saying that they are not liable if it shows you are ok to drive and then you get a dui or in an accident.

Alexis Gold · 05-12-08, 05:55 PM

house parties ftw

PETA · 05-12-08, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BHAZ

doesnt seem so bad to me, all it is doing is offering a service to customers, it doesnt say that it is manditory to use on your way out. but if there was a breathalizer avaliable to use to check if you had too much to drink i think it would benifit those people who use it. there are some bars in arizona that i have been to that have them. they cost a quarter to use and they have big signs saying that they are not liable if it shows you are ok to drive and then you get a dui or in an accident.

not sure if it is still true but many states banned breathalyzer machines, particularly those that gave an actual number for a read out (as opposed to green, yellow, red) because it was argued to encourage people to compete to see who could get the highest score

djetaine · 05-12-08, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BHAZ

doesnt seem so bad to me, all it is doing is offering a service to customers, it doesnt say that it is manditory to use on your way out. but if there was a breathalizer avaliable to use to check if you had too much to drink i think it would benifit those people who use it. there are some bars in arizona that i have been to that have them. they cost a quarter to use and they have big signs saying that they are not liable if it shows you are ok to drive and then you get a dui or in an accident.

I was about to say the same thing. This is a GOOD idea, not a bad one. From what i can tell, it's just making it so that all bars are required to provide the device/service should a patron desire it.
Might possibly create a rash of alcohol related hospital visits due to frat boys trying to see how drunk they can get as well.

zcwilly · 05-12-08, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BHAZ

doesnt seem so bad to me, all it is doing is offering a service to customers, it doesnt say that it is manditory to use on your way out. but if there was a breathalizer avaliable to use to check if you had too much to drink i think it would benifit those people who use it. there are some bars in arizona that i have been to that have them. they cost a quarter to use and they have big signs saying that they are not liable if it shows you are ok to drive and then you get a dui or in an accident.

"Obligatory" = Mandatory

djetaine · 05-12-08, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by zcwilly

"Obligatory" = Mandatory

and?? what's your point?

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Originally Posted by FTA

so that everyone can check their level

EDIT: after more research a number of sites maintain that it will be mandatory for people to be tested on the way out.
This article was not clear on that. It's not very well written if this is the case. Subsequent research makes it clearer. I'd still like to see the bill itself though.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...12/2241634.htm
http://www.adetocqueville.com/200805...cejox12121.htm

That little line left out at the beginning makes a world of difference

zcwilly · 05-12-08, 06:20 PM

The point is, technically, if you are drunk at a bar you are breaking the law. So if you are required to take a breathalyser and you are drunk, there could be a nice policeman waiting outside to haul your ass to detox for 12 hours or write you a ticket, even if you aren't driving.

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zcwilly Happiness Consultant Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 2,295	The point is, technically, if you are drunk at a bar you are breaking the law. So if you are required to take a breathalyser and you are drunk, there could be a nice policeman waiting outside to haul your ass to detox for 12 hours or write you a ticket, even if you aren't driving.