McCain's Secret, Questionable Record

[BradH]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffre..._b_107409.html

"Despite graduating in the bottom 1 percent of his Annapolis class, McCain was offered the most sought-after Navy assignment -- to become an aircraft carrier pilot."



A long article... maybe a useful read, maybe not.

[zerojunkie]

What about Barak's military service....oh wait.

[St. Stalin the Apathetic]

Becoming a jet pilot to say nothing of a carrier pilot requies a shitload of expertise... being the son and grandson of an admiral almost certainly had something to do with it... but while it may have helpedd him get into those schools to get onto a carrier he had to earn the job to stay there

wonder what the fatality rate for carrier pilots was compared to community organizers... you tell me who has seen it all, who has the unique experience

"we have seen it all. Barack has seen it all. No other candidate had made that "kind of choice" or had that kind of experience." Michelle Obama

[BradH]

The point of the article is more deceit in the McCain camp and other funny findings.


Military service doesn't make a president great - obviously.

[St. Stalin the Apathetic]

Originally Posted by BradH

The point of the article is more deceit in the McCain camp and other funny findings.


Military service doesn't make a president great - obviously.

So tell me about Ayres and Dorn... Rezco and Wright,.... and Pfleger because if yo uwant to do this petty character assassination bullshit Obama's got a lot more to worry about.

Your complaint is how McCain got into a highly dangerous (he was seriously injured on the Oriskany before he was ever shot down) job serving his country... you do realize that don't you? You're holding that up as a complaint. You don't recognize that as the epitome of stupid? You've called this service to country deceit - that's remarkable. If that's deceit - we need more of it.

[zerojunkie]

Originally Posted by xian

Becoming a jet pilot to say nothing of a carrier pilot requies a shitload of expertise... being the son and grandson of an admiral almost certainly had something to do with it... but while it may have helpedd him get into those schools to get onto a carrier he had to earn the job to stay there

wonder what the fatality rate for carrier pilots was compared to community organizers... you tell me who has seen it all, who has the unique experience

Yeah, not many SAM's are being shot at community organizers...unless you're Hillary, then you can't walk down a street without having to duck because of sniper fire.

[St. Stalin the Apathetic]

Its hard out there for a pimpstress

[BradH]

spin spin spin

If you glossed over the article you would see the 'deceit' term is in point with the Admiral section

[St. Stalin the Apathetic]

Originally Posted by BradH

spin spin spin

If you glossed over the article you would see the 'deceit' term is in point with the Admiral section

lol - an editorial blog on the huffington post is gospel but my comment was spin? Pull the other one.

You said the central fact at issue was McCain getting a much sought after position despite his low class rank. You think John McCain III told his supreiors where to assign him? Because if you do you're nuts. If you don't then there's no deceit from McCain III now is there. Lastly, the deceit was to take one of the world's most dangerous jobs in service of his country. So, you're euither talking about some one else's deceit or you're arguing an abuserdity and in both cases to accomplish something noble. What's the point of reading such bullshit?

[zerojunkie]

Originally Posted by BradH

spin spin spin

I'm glad you've come to terms with what the huffingtonpost is all about. Because the outside time frame for his promotion to admiral was what, eight years, and he'd been captain already for two. So yeah, if he'd stayed in the Navy a few more years he most likely would've become an Admiral...most likely not a four star one, but one none the less.

[St. Stalin the Apathetic]

Originally Posted by zerojunkie

I'm glad you've come to terms with what the huffingtonpost is all about. Because the outside time frame for his promotion to admiral was what, eight years, and he'd been captain already for two. So yeah, if he'd stayed in the Navy a few more years he most likely would've become an Admiral...most likely not a four star one, but one none the less.

only if an admiral above him retired and there was no one else in line for the opening

besides, I thought I understood that after making captain that if the you were not elevated within X periopd of time (and 8 years seems in excess of that) you were expected to retire to let others come up through the ranks... Admirals of course are, in effect, tenured...

[BradH]

Yeah I believe there is some term like that

[zerojunkie]

Originally Posted by xian

only if an admiral above him retired and there was no one else in line for the opening

besides, I thought I understood that after making captain that if the you were not elevated within X periopd of time (and 8 years seems in excess of that) you were expected to retire to let others come up through the ranks... Admirals of course are, in effect, tenured...

Well, I know four star admirals can typically only hold their position for five years. Unless they rose to that rank very quickly. Seems like there's a fair amount of flux in three to four star Admirals. Seems even more likely if the then Sec. of the Navy has you pigeonholed for the gig...even though he's only a cog in the machine that makes admirals, I'm sure he has a good deal of sway. blah, whatever, is this and his ex-wife (who still speaks very highly of McCain, and even said he would make an excellent president) the only type of character assassination the left can muster?

[St. Stalin the Apathetic]

Originally Posted by zerojunkie

Well, I know four star admirals can typically only hold their position for five years. Unless they rose to that rank very quickly. Seems like there's a fair amount of flux in three to four star Admirals. Seems even more likely if the then Sec. of the Navy has you pigeonholed for the gig...even though he's only a cog in the machine that makes admirals, I'm sure he has a good deal of sway. blah, whatever, is this and his ex-wife (who still speaks very highly of McCain, and even said he would make an excellent president) the only type of character assassination the left can muster?

when you've got lemons... and your candidate's military experience is so glaringly absent in comparison... probably.

Obama's credibility on anything military and foreign policy is so bad that McCain's first wife and his failure to make Admiral apparently become black marks that demote him to Obama's level..... ok maybe not.

[umalak_]

McCain's military and foreign policy experience isn't enough to make up for his lack of knowledge about the economy... not to mention the fact that his foreign policy experience is flawed. I hope his stance on the war is not the single issue you are basing your vote for him on.

9/11 and the ensuing Iraq war is probably the most crooked thing to ever happen in this country and that's saying a lot with the history this country has.