Obama has a great energy policy...

[progress]

http://shotsonthehouse.com/?p=325

“There are things that you can do individually though to save energy; making sure your tires are properly inflated, simple thing, but we could save all the oil that they’re talking about getting off drilling, if everybody was just inflating their tires and getting regular tune-ups. You could actually save just as much.”

Wow. That's brilliant. We should have thought of that years ago....

[St. Stalin the Apathetic]

well, there it is. crisis solved. don't increase oil supply, fill your tires.

how many cars require regular tune-ups any more? I thought we had little things called computers that regulated that kinda shit to keep cars tuned up? But, wtf do I know, I'm just a unfrozen cave man lawyer - they didn't even have cars in my day.


the Dems have recognized, finally, that increasing supply is a good thing. Problem is Pelosi advocated opening up the strategic reserve not new drilling. That woman is fuck dumb as a shit in a pant.

[progress]

Originally Posted by xian

well, there it is. crisis solved. don't increase oil supply, fill your tires.

how many cars require regular tune-ups any more? I thought we had little things called computers that regulated that kinda shit to keep cars tuned up? But, wtf do I know, I'm just a unfrozen cave man lawyer - they didn't even have cars in my day.


the Dems have recognized, finally, that increasing supply is a good thing. Problem is Pelosi advocated opening up the strategic reserve not new drilling. That woman is fuck dumb as a shit in a pant.

I agree. Bush's comment is spot on about the dem's view of opening up reserves and against drilling. It makes absolutely no sense to not drill the resources we have.

[transplant]

Originally Posted by xian

But, wtf do I know, I'm just a unfrozen cave man lawyer - they didn't even have cars in my day.

Your technology scares me.

[Chris Allen]

Originally Posted by progress

http://shotsonthehouse.com/?p=325

Wow. That's brilliant. We should have thought of that years ago....

what he is talking about really works. Its part of a concept called hypermiling (and regular maintance). How many people out there actually regularly check their tire pressure rhemsleves?? >>>> http://www.gassavers.org/index.php <<<< overinflating your tires will help you get even better FE, too!

I mentioned doing this a few months ago on this sight as matter of fact (not that anyone cares), but the point is there are ways to get better FE (fuel economy) that if more and more people attempted, would help reduce some fuel usage.

Anyone flaming obama for this is just a racist asshole that doesnt know shit about what he's talking about.

Lots more gas saving tips here (including overinflating your tires):
http://www.gassavers.org/index.php

[St. Stalin the Apathetic]

Originally Posted by Chris Allen

what he is talking about really works. Its part of a concept called hypermiling (and regular maintance). How many people out there actually check their tire pressure?? >>>> http://www.gassavers.org/index.php <<<< overinflating your tires will help you get even better FE, too!

I mentioned doing this a few months ago on this sight as matter of fact (not that anyone cares), but the point is there are ways to get better FE (fuel economy) that if more and more people attempted, would help reduce some fuel usage.

Anyone flaming obama for this is just a racist asshole that doesnt know shit about what he's talking about.

Lots more gas saving tips here (including overinflating your tires):
http://www.gassavers.org/index.php

yes, properly inflated tires do make more efficient fuel economy.... they problem is that most people don't drive around on flat tires. further, we don't tune up cars any more. Lastly, that's not putting any new oil on the market.

[shaggy]

Originally Posted by xian

well, there it is. crisis solved. don't increase oil supply, fill your tires.

how many cars require regular tune-ups any more? I thought we had little things called computers that regulated that kinda shit to keep cars tuned up? But, wtf do I know, I'm just a unfrozen cave man lawyer - they didn't even have cars in my day.


the Dems have recognized, finally, that increasing supply is a good thing. Problem is Pelosi advocated opening up the strategic reserve not new drilling. That woman is fuck dumb as a shit in a pant.

The problem with the Democratic party is the idiots who represent it in the house and senate, and we elected them. Their foundation and values stem from being a solid, caring, sympathetic, empathetic person, but unfortunately (and I mean that with all sincerity) the leaders of the party, for the most part, are complete idiots (not sure how Pelosi and the other fuck got to where they are). They are too busy trying to destroy Bush for all his wrongs ( and there are plenty), instead of correcting them and making some goddamn progress with what has been given them (the house and senate) It is a shame that the convictions they hold are being discounted as naive and stupid, just because the orators of such philosophies are incompetent morons...

[Chris Allen]

Originally Posted by xian

yes, properly inflated tires do make more efficient fuel economy.... they problem is that most people don't drive around on flat tires. further, we don't tune up cars any more. Lastly, that's not putting any new oil on the market.

Its not about driving on flat tires, if your tires are under a few psi under the factory spec (which will look normal) that can cut sevaral miles out of your FE. Multiply that by every gallon you put into your car and you got a lot of wasted oil.

Dont tune cars anymore? What about oil changes, air filter changes, fuel filter changes, etc? You dont take care of your car? What do you do just throw it away when you are finished with it? Tune up = maintenance.

[St. Stalin the Apathetic]

Originally Posted by Chris Allen

Its not about driving on flat tires, if your tires are under a few psi under the factory spec (which will look normal) that can cut sevaral miles out of your FE. Multiply that by every gallon you put into your car and you got a lot of wasted oil.

Dont tune cars anymore? What about oil changes, air filter changes, fuel filter changes, etc? You dont take care of your car? What do you do just throw it away when you are finished with it? Tune up = maintenance.

I understand his point about psi.... I'm saying most people keep their tires properly inflated.

Tune-ups... we have computers in cars that adjust these things eliminating the need for tune ups... adjusting carburateurs for better fuel efficiency etc - you're replacing that notion with oil changes and filter changes which are not historically "tune-ups" they are regularly scheduled mainenance.

There is no doubt these things save gas. But its insignificant compared to opening a new oil field.

[e-brake]

Originally Posted by progress

I agree. Bush's comment is spot on about the dem's view of opening up reserves and against drilling. It makes absolutely no sense to not drill the resources we have.

Well mostly because they are talking about drilling in the busiest hurricaine path in Us coastal waters. The same path that resulted in over 120 platform based oil spills during Katrina that is still effecting the gulf to this day. Also it will take over 10 years to actually get the oil thats there, even if we do go get the oil since its off shore it goes on the global market. If we had every square inch of off shore oil tapped and pumping today the Republicans own economists admit that it would only shave about .02 a gallon off the current cost of gas.


Why are the oil companies pushing so hard for permission to open up new oil fields when they are not even opening the wells that are already tapped in the US? Exxon and Texaco are sitting on thousands of already drilled wells inside of North America that they just need to open the taps on and there is absolutely nothing standing in their way. They already own the oil, they already drilled the wells, they already have the pipelines in place, they already have the permits from the government to take it out......yet they are still refusing to open them up.

So why again should we allow them to continue to stake claim to even more oil that they wouldnt be pumping today even if they had nothing to stop them?

[Chris Allen]

Originally Posted by xian

I understand his point about psi.... I'm saying most people keep their tires properly inflated.

Tune-ups... we have computers in cars that adjust these things eliminating the need for tune ups... adjusting carburateurs for better fuel efficiency etc - you're replacing that notion with oil changes and filter changes which are not historically "tune-ups" they are regularly scheduled mainenance.

There is no doubt these things save gas. But its insignificant compared to opening a new oil field.

most people? How often, when you are at the gas station, do you see people checking their tire pressure? Next time watch as people come and go. Only a very small percentage (less than 10% maybe) actually check their tire pressure to make sure its ok. How many people even know how to check it, own a tire pressure guage, or even know where to look to find out what PSI is recomended??? Im not saying that people dont do it, but the point is people dont pay attention much unless their tires "look" low. LOTS of peeps arent accurately monitor that ish. Its not sufficient to just check in at the tire shop every 12-6 months and have them rotate your tires.

The tuning thing, not everyone drives a brand new car that fixes itself. Yeah car have ECU's, but that doesnt tune your car, it programs how it operates.
Maybe you need to come down off the high horse and stop getting all robot-dictionary when it comes to real life.

[johnny861]

Aren't tires now made from a petroleum based product?

[progress]

Originally Posted by johnny861

Aren't tires now made from a petroleum based product?

Depends on the type of tire.

Originally Posted by Chris Allen

Anyone flaming obama for this is just a racist asshole that doesnt know shit about what he's talking about.

Sure thing there dipshit....

[david austin]

the bottle neck in the us isnt the oil... its the refining capacity.

we could have 1000 tankers a day drop oil supply off at the gulf... doesnt mean shit.

[tricky]

here's a novel idea...Use Less!