xian

[tricky]

"Not Every Wrong, Or Even Every Violation Of The Law, Is A Crime"


Are you fucking kidding me? I was thinking the same thing when I got my last speeding ticket too...



well...coming from this administration i'm not surprised.

[matias]

in xian's defense, potheads say the same thing

[tricky]

It's only illegal if you get caught, and then it's only illegal half the time?

[MC Twinkie]

You have to think of it like this. Example:

A homeless guy steals a candy bar. The candy bar is worth 1.00$ The tax on a candy bar is .08$ The homeless man doesn't have money to pay a fine. The store wont close from the lose of a single candy bar. The cost of sending a policeman out to the store exceeds .08$

Example 2:
A man robs a liquir store with a gun. The lose value to the store exceeds 1.00$ The lose could be a tax write off. If someone gets shot and dies, the government lose the tax value on the persons earnings. Its not profitable for police to let this one go.

[johnny861]

Originally Posted by tricky

"Not Every Wrong, Or Even Every Violation Of The Law, Is A Crime... When you have money."

fixed.

[matias]

Originally Posted by clay donkey

You have to think of it like this. Example:

A homeless guy steals a candy bar. The candy bar is worth 1.00$ The tax on a candy bar is .08$ The homeless man doesn't have money to pay a fine. The store wont close from the lose of a single candy bar. The cost of sending a policeman out to the store exceeds .08$

Example 2:
A man robs a liquir store with a gun. The lose value to the store exceeds 1.00$ The lose could be a tax write off. If someone gets shot and dies, the government lose the tax value on the persons earnings. Its not profitable for police to let this one go.

wat

[St. Stalin the Apathetic]

Originally Posted by clay donkey

You have to think of it like this. Example:

A homeless guy steals a candy bar. The candy bar is worth 1.00$ The tax on a candy bar is .08$ The homeless man doesn't have money to pay a fine. The store wont close from the lose of a single candy bar. The cost of sending a policeman out to the store exceeds .08$

Example 2:
A man robs a liquir store with a gun. The lose value to the store exceeds 1.00$ The lose could be a tax write off. If someone gets shot and dies, the government lose the tax value on the persons earnings. Its not profitable for police to let this one go.

you're probably a little outside your depth on that one

Originally Posted by tricky

"Not Every Wrong, Or Even Every Violation Of The Law, Is A Crime"


Are you fucking kidding me? I was thinking the same thing when I got my last speeding ticket too...



well...coming from this administration i'm not surprised.

Well, I guess that depends on how you define crime.

For example, speeding may be wrong and it may violate the law - but it isn't necessarily a crime. Traffic violations are violations of law, of the traffic code - not the penal code - ergo - not crimes (necessarily - some traffic offenses elevate to criminal offenses given specific conditions)

[MC Twinkie]

Or maybe I'm just casting a cheap reflection on your profession. Tell me poor people don't get off easy because it cost to much to put them in prison. Law isn't about justice its about $$$ pure and simple.

[St. Stalin the Apathetic]

Originally Posted by clay donkey

Or maybe I'm just casting a cheap reflection on your profession. Tell me poor people don't get off easy because it cost to much to put them in prison. Law isn't about justice its about $$$ pure and simple.

wtf does that have to do with your assinine explantion to the original point made by Aaron?


The law often exists to impede justice. For example, it protects the heinous child abusing murderer from being torn into tiny pieces by the family of the 6 year old dead girl he raped and burried alive in a trash bag.

Prison: our system in general bends over backwards to prevent those it thinks "rescuable" rfom going to the can bevause once they go - that's it - pretty much game over. That should in no way be confused with "poor people get off easy."

Again, you're outside your depth here and should probably just stop.

[MC Twinkie]

Yeah, but thats a crime your talking about where the child was a potential tax payer. We are not talking about the punishment. Its about shit like J walking. We have laws but sometimes they are impossible to enforce. The original topic isn't about rescueing people, or even the death penalty.

[St. Stalin the Apathetic]

Originally Posted by clay donkey

Yeah, but thats a crime your talking about where the child was a potential tax payer.

Yes it was a crime I was talking about. WTF does her potential as a tax payer have to do with it? Its a crime to burn a worthless car in the street - which pays no taxes.

Originally Posted by clay donkey

We are not talking about the punishment.

You specifically mentioned the cost to imprison some one - that's punishment.

Originally Posted by clay donkey

Its about shit like J walking. We have laws but sometimes they are impossible to enforce.

Maybe, but J-Walking isn't one of them. Cops sees you doing it and he can cite you for it. And, ftr - its a tag violation not a crime.

Originally Posted by clay donkey

The original topic isn't about rescueing people, or even the death penalty.

the original topic is light years from here.... you're not just outside your depth you're out of your mind. You think in strange circuitous and divergent ways. Please stop before reading your posts drives me insane.

[Daryl]

Originally Posted by xian

the original topic is light years from here.... you're not just outside your depth you're out of your mind. You think in strange circuitous and divergent ways. Please stop before reading your posts drives me insane.

Welcome to a case of making so far left a turn that you go around the block and end up back where you started.

LOL @ the last sentence. That is going to be the new diss in here.

"Your thoughts are drivel and waste my time."

ROFL.

[MC Twinkie]

Law school is only a year in some programs. Its hardly some futurist alien technology. I think you just to drunk to apply any reading comprehension. Its all about how much money a court can bring in. You could say its also about no harm no foul, but piracy causes a lose of taxable sales.

[St. Stalin the Apathetic]

Originally Posted by clay donkey

Law school is only a year in some programs.

No. Law School is not only a year in any program anywhere in the US. Also, how long it takes to get through law school is hardly relevent to the topic at hand.

Originally Posted by clay donkey

Its hardly some futurist alien technology.

Indeed, it is arcane, obscurantist and dusty - but there are several thousand years worth of wisdom from a wide variety of sources crammed into our laws. Don't insult it w/out knowing your subject well enough to properly do so. You, clearly, do not. (know your song well before singing)

Originally Posted by clay donkey

I think you just to drunk to apply any reading comprehension.

Me? I just too drunk? Really?

Originally Posted by clay donkey

Its all about how much money a court can bring in. You could say its also about no harm no foul, but piracy causes a lose of taxable sales.

yeah, I mean you gotta bring some game here and you're just not. Unless you can keep the train on the rails there's little point in continuing this. You're head is so deeply implanted in your ass that I'm sure you can shit and eat at the same time.

[Daryl]

Originally Posted by clay donkey

Law school is only a year in some programs.

Allow me to intervene here:

I don't nor can I tell if you think just enough about the legal system to think that it SERIOUSLY is a revenue generator (outside of lawsuit abuse), but if you should ever end up in dire straits are you REALLY going to take on the services of a 1 year lawyer? I think your respect (and hope for BEST representation) should go to one of these folks that you think are just here to get your money.

P.S. I would love to see a link to a 1 year lawyer school. Paralegal MAYBE, but a PRACTICING lawyer? It's not that late at night for me to miss that logic leap.



You either learn to interpret the law on your own time or pay someone to do it for you.

It's that simple.