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Old 08-13-08, 05:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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US troops being deployed to Georgia

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Bush sends US troops to Georgia

The US is sending troops to embattled Georgia in the form of a humanitarian aid exercise, President George Bush said.

Mr Bush said military planes would deliver supplies in a move which would put American forces in the heart of the region.

The president said he was concerned that Russia might be violating the ceasefire in Georgia and he expected all Russian forces to withdraw.

He is also sending Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to Paris for talks with EU peacemakers and then to Georgia to express solidarity with the democratically elected government there. Mr Bush said he strongly supported France's efforts to broker an end to the fighting.

He said the massive US humanitarian effort was already in progress and would involve US Naval forces as well as aircraft.

A C-17 military cargo plane loaded with supplies was on the way, and Mr Bush said that Russia must ensure that "all lines of communication and transport, including seaports, roads and airports," remain open to let deliveries and civilians through.

"To begin to repair the damage to its relations with the United States, Europe and other nations, and to begin restoring its place in the world, Russia must keep its word and act to end this crisis," he said.

The US intervention came after Russian troops and paramilitaries rolled into the strategic Georgian city of Gori smashing the truce designed to end the conflict that has uprooted 100,000 people and scarred the Georgian landscape.

Georgian officials said the town of Gori, which sits on Georgia's main east-west road, was looted and bombed by the Russians.

To the west separatists in Abkahzian backed by Russian military pushed out Georgian troops and even moved into Georgian territory itself, planting a flag over the Inguri River.
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Old 08-13-08, 05:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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we already had troops and advisors there..... just sayin'
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we already had troops and advisors there..... just sayin'
I think it's safe to say we have troops and advisors all over the place, this was more of a formal announcement that humanitarian effort is on its way...
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My intial thoughts on this although I haven't read too much about this situation:

This is a bad idea and a very bad one at that. US/Russia relationships have been pretty stale for a while and judging by the amount of "he said, she said" on who fired first, it's almost an invitation for an incident to occur.
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Old 08-13-08, 05:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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My intial thoughts on this although I haven't read too much about this situation:

This is a bad idea and a very bad one at that. US/Russia relationships have been pretty stale for a while and judging by the amount of "he said, she said" on who fired first, it's almost an invitation for an incident to occur.

Stalin forcefully split and ethnic minority in the north and south of Georgia. Its been a problem since. Georgia tried to take back what it considered sovereign territory and the Russians acted w/claims of defense of that minority. Clearly Putin just wants the empire back. The speed with which the Russians entered made it clear that they were simply waiting for the Georgians to move. The bigger question is going to be whether Putin goes into Georgia itself rather than the disputed regions.
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fuck yeah! we are the world cops!
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Grow up for once.
I think this is an issue we all can agree on. Its bad. So show some maturity.
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They are our allies so we're there, I'm sure it has something to do with NATO.

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I think this is an issue we all can agree on. Its bad. So show some maturity.
What issue is that? Only the US/Allies can invade sovereign nations... but no one else can?
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what happens when russia drops a bomb and an american dies? do we go to war with russia? This is such a bad idea. We should have just let this one go.
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They are our allies so we're there, I'm sure it has something to do with NATO.

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We agreed at the end of the cold war not to absorb former Warsaw Pact states into NATO. Well, we did. Czechoslovakia, Poland etc. Our friendly relations with Ukraine (Putin considers the Orange Revolution a CIA funded and organized event) and Georgia may well have Putin worried that NATO will absorb both of those states as well. He doesn't like the idea of being surrounded by allies of the US. A fair concern.

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What issue is that? Only the US/Allies can invade sovereign nations... but no one else can?
Shall we compare US/Allies in Iraq and Afganistan to the Russians in Georgia or will you just accept the fact that these are not analogous events?

The ONLY analogous fact is troop presence.... ends there.
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This is very very bad, trust me. Bush is an idiot, a person with even a slight sign of intelligence can see that. However, this new old fuck MCain has already stated that he wants to go to war, when he gets elected and takes over shit is just going to get worse.

Russia will not start anything, but if America fucks up and stick's its nose in places where it shouldn't be like usual, you can expect a full blown nuclear war.
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This is very very bad, trust me. Bush is an idiot, a person with even a slight sign of intelligence can see that. However, this new old fuck MCain has already stated that he wants to go to war, when he gets elected and takes over shit is just going to get worse.
McCain stated he wants to go to war with whom? When did he say this?

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but if America fucks up and stick's its nose in places where it shouldn't be like usual, you can expect a full blown nuclear war.
Never mind.... please don't bother responding..... I won't bother reading
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Bother or not, I don't really care. Nuclear war is inevitable sometime in the future. And guess who will eventually start it? Ill give you a hint: The only country in the world that has used a nuclear bomb before. Twice.
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Bother or not, I don't really care. Nuclear war is inevitable sometime in the future. And guess who will eventually start it? Ill give you a hint: The only country in the world that has used a nuclear bomb before. Twice.
did you read that in a crystal ball or something?
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