Video of Palin "its gods will to build a gas pipeline" and "god wants war in Iraq"

[I AM EL-NINO]

Originally Posted by PatMeetsPsy

claiming that your ideas or ambitions are "gods will" = false prophecy.
read the Bible verse i posted earlier.

I think you are taking it out of context. Many religous people beleive thier ideas and ambitions are derived from Gods will.

[charlie brown]

and they are fucking nut jobs

...there is a huge difference in a religious person thinking what they are doing with their life is god's will as opposed to them trying to convince others to do things for them with the premise that it's god's will

[Coyotl]

Originally Posted by I AM EL-NINO

I think you are taking it out of context.

i love when i quote verses that are simple, direct and to the point and someone cries "out of context." it seems to be classic cop out for many.

now would you please explain for us the actual context of the verse, and why you think my use of it was removed from that.

[Coyotl]

Originally Posted by I AM EL-NINO

Maybe not but supporting it for twenty + years is.

i don't think any pastor gives the same sermon for 20 years. the video which everyone is talking about seems more recent. id like to see video from around the time Obama joined the church.
and besides,
listening doesn't equal supporting or agreeing.

for example i just listened to this:

" ...I think its gods will to get these people and companies to come together to build this pipeline so lets pray for that."

doesn't mean i support it.

[Keith P]

Originally Posted by zerojunkie

omg, why would she say such things at a church....

Why would one say such things to begin with?

[Keith P]

I mean even the god fearers in this thread realize how fucking absurd it is to get messages from god about pipelines right? I know reason isn't wholly lost on all of you.

"Hey Sarah, God here. I just want to let you know that I really need that pipeline done. I mean I created the earth in 7 days and everything but I'm a little busy for all that right now, so can you take care of it? Great, thanks!

BTW I really want to congratulate you guys on the westward expansion/manifest destiny thing again. I really had no need for having that many native americans running around. They just kind of bothered me. NYWAYS I gotta go have a chat w/ Pius XII. ciao"

[Keith P]

Originally Posted by SFO

Dude, she is like talking to students about there futures. God has a plan for everyone no matter how far the worm hole you go or if you took the red pill or the blue pill. You just gota be willen to accept that you do not have a handle on things because out of the millions of screw ups you did. Ya just can't get it right.

Dude I'm like talking about reason and rationality and the grossness of using a supreme being's will to further your political and economic agenda. We had a place for that in the political spectrum in 1880 not 2008. I'm willen to concede that you have the intelligence of an amoeba, that's about it.

[Dionysos]

Originally Posted by I AM EL-NINO

So....better then hearing Obamas pastor of 20 YEARS spewing nothing but hate America rhtoric/hate the white devil shit and Obuma trying to pass it off as something he never heard before. lollzzzz

I take it you haven't been reading the things her pastor says.

[Burger Slut]

Originally Posted by Dionysos

I take it you haven't been reading the things her pastor says.

Her pastor and obama's ex pastor cancel eachother out IMO.

Both have said wacky things.

[charlie brown]

that was his point

[Burger Slut]

Originally Posted by matias

that was his point

if you're talking to me, I know.

I was agreeing. sheesh.

[charlie brown]

kekeke sorry

[I AM EL-NINO]

Originally Posted by matias

and they are fucking nut jobs

...there is a huge difference in a religious person thinking what they are doing with their life is god's will as opposed to them trying to convince others to do things for them with the premise that it's god's will

No shit Matias?
Im glad you got that part.

[I AM EL-NINO]

Originally Posted by PatMeetsPsy

i don't think any pastor gives the same sermon for 20 years. the video which everyone is talking about seems more recent. id like to see video from around the time Obama joined the church.
and besides,
listening doesn't equal supporting or agreeing.

for example i just listened to this:

" ...I think its gods will to get these people and companies to come together to build this pipeline so lets pray for that."

doesn't mean i support it.

Come on. Everyone knows the deal with Wright. The guys always been a loudmouth jackass. Listening for twenty years is damn near indoctrinated at that point. Who are you kidding here? And what I mean by taken out of context is the phrase you quoted above. This is common in churches and is ment imo that she feels there was a higher power that brought them all together. Why is this a problem? People in presummed support of Obumas time at that church like to so casually say "Ohh Pastor Wright aint really like that and all. Pay no mind to all that racism and slanderous talk. Its just part of his thing. But you white rich folks wouldnt understand all that cause you aint been in thier shoes" and all that stuff. So I see no problem with what she has been quoted here as saying. I didnt even have to listen to the video. Im not really down with much she has to say. Didnt watch her speach, McCants or any of the party speaches the last two weeks. Could care less. Im just trying to make sense to you about how "Middle America Swing Voters" feel as people like to lable us.

[Dionysos]

Originally Posted by SUP???

Her pastor and obama's ex pastor cancel eachother out IMO.

Both have said wacky things.

Yea, about all Palin's pastor is missing is a catchphrase like 'God damn America'.