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Old 10-02-08, 10:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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bailout bill wtf: Sec. 503 Exemption from excise tax for certain wooden arrows design

Here is a small group of WTF does that have to do with the bailout addons that have made it into the bill:

http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/2008/...nza/index.html

  • Sec. 105. Energy credit for geothermal heat pump systems.
  • Sec. 111. Expansion and modification of advanced coal project investment credit.
  • Sec. 113. Temporary increase in coal excise tax; funding of Black Lung Disability Trust Fund.
  • Sec. 115. Tax credit for carbon dioxide sequestration.
  • Sec. 205. Credit for new qualified plug-in electric drive motor vehicles.
  • Sec. 405. Increase and extension of Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund tax.
  • Sec. 309. Extension of economic development credit for American Samoa.
  • Sec. 317. Seven-year cost recovery period for motorsports racing track facility.
  • Sec. 501. $8,500 income threshold used to calculate refundable portion of child tax credit.
  • Sec. 503 Exemption from excise tax for certain wooden arrows designed for use by children.
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This is the fundimental point where our government goes wrong. Riders on bills. I think all unrelated issues should be voted on separately.

this is a good thing but stupid to tack on to the bailout.
Energy credit for geothermal heat pump systems.
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Old 10-02-08, 11:18 AM   #3 (permalink)
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This is the fundimental point where our government goes wrong. Riders on bills. I think all unrelated issues should be voted on separately.
Shit would take longer to get done than it already does if that was the case.

They'd still be voting on shit from 1980.
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Old 10-02-08, 11:19 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Here is a small group of WTF does that have to do with the bailout addons that have made it into the bill:

http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/2008/...nza/index.html

  • Sec. 105. Energy credit for geothermal heat pump systems.
  • Sec. 111. Expansion and modification of advanced coal project investment credit.
  • Sec. 113. Temporary increase in coal excise tax; funding of Black Lung Disability Trust Fund.
  • Sec. 115. Tax credit for carbon dioxide sequestration.
  • Sec. 205. Credit for new qualified plug-in electric drive motor vehicles.
  • Sec. 405. Increase and extension of Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund tax.
  • Sec. 309. Extension of economic development credit for American Samoa.
  • Sec. 317. Seven-year cost recovery period for motorsports racing track facility.
  • Sec. 501. $8,500 income threshold used to calculate refundable portion of child tax credit.
  • Sec. 503 Exemption from excise tax for certain wooden arrows designed for use by children.
that's the rider I loved.... single facility unidentified.... how's that for a track owner w/political suck?


this is why we need a line item veto
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Old 10-02-08, 11:39 AM   #5 (permalink)
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that's the rider I loved.... single facility unidentified.... how's that for a track owner w/political suck?


this is why we need a line item veto
What better to get the GOP base rallied behind a bill than a rider to give tax breaks to NASCAR.
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that track facility deal could be a refi of the indy motorspeedway pagoda development for the formula one race that didnt make nearly as much money as they thought.

f1 is about as far from redneck as you can get
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What better to get the GOP base rallied behind a bill than a rider to give tax breaks to NASCAR.
The DNC needs to get the DNC on board for the bill to pass

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maybe just some more crack houses please - hard to find these days
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that track facility deal could be a refi of the indy motorspeedway pagoda development for the formula one race that didnt make nearly as much money as they thought.

f1 is about as far from redneck as you can get
Marketwatch.com said it is related to the new NASCAR track that the Govenor of West Virginia has been trying to build in Charleston.
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ah... well still thats a massive money making sport.

not really surprised to see people want to see the success of a new track.
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Marketwatch.com said it is related to the new NASCAR track that the Govenor of West Virginia has been trying to build in Charleston.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Manchin

Yeah? He's a democrat
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The DNC needs to get the DNC on board for the bill to pass
As does the GOP, despite every top Republican in the nation screaming and yelling about how important the bill was the entire party just gave the leadership the finger and voted no anyway. Honestly the GOP voting down the bill last time kinda gave me some hope for the party.....its almost like they remembered what the party platform was for a few minutes.
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A west Virginia Democrat is about equal to a Texas Republican. Its not exactly a progressive state by any measure.
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A west Virginia Democrat is about equal to a Texas Republican. Its not exactly a progressive state by any measure.
pfftpfpttpfpfsttpfpfpfpf.... he's a democrat


I love the word progressive.... sounds so much better than socialist doesn't it

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As does the GOP, despite every top Republican in the nation screaming and yelling about how important the bill was the entire party just gave the leadership the finger and voted no anyway. Honestly the GOP voting down the bill last time kinda gave me some hope for the party.....its almost like they remembered what the party platform was for a few minutes.
The GOP cannot prevent the bill from passing. They can help get it passed but the DNC only needs to get their own party on board to pass the bill. Its a DNC controlled congress any and all blame/credit for this rests with the Democrats not the Republicans.
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