White supremacists voting/hoping for Obama election

[Sir Meh]

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/0...e-celebrating/



With the nomination of Barack Obama as the Democratic presidential candidate clinched, large sections of the white supremacist movement are adopting a surprising attitude: Electing America’s first black president would be a very good thing.

It’s not that the assortment of neo-Nazis, Klansmen, anti-Semites and others who make up this country’s radical right have suddenly discovered that a man should be judged based on the content of his character, not his skin. On the contrary. A growing number of white supremacists, and even some of those who pass for intellectual leaders of their movement, think that a black man in the Oval Office would shock white America, possibly drive millions to their cause, and perhaps even set off a race war that, they hope, would ultimately end in Aryan victory.

“He will make things so bad for white people that hopefully they will finally realize how stupid they were for admiring these jigaboos all these years,” “Darthvader” wrote on the neo-Nazi Vanguard News Network web forum. “I believe in the motto ‘Worse is Better’ and Obama certainly fits that description.” Just last week, another poster on the same thread chimed in with this: “I hope Obama wins because in four years, white people just might be pissed off enough to actually do something. … White people aren’t going to do a thing until their toys are taken away from them. So things have to be worse for things to be better.”

“Oh man,” enthused “Centimanus” on the white nationalist Stormfront website. “I am gleefully, sadistically looking forward to Obama as president. … It will be a beautiful day when the masses look at the paper and truly realize they have lost their own country. Added “Fulimnata”: “To the average white man and woman, they could look at Obama and see plain as day that whites are not in control.” Another message, from “TheLastOfMyKind,” agreed: “Could it be that the nomination of Obama finally sparks a sense of unity in white voters? I would propose that this threat of black, muslim [sic] rule may very well be the thing that finally scares some sense back into complacent whites throughout the nation.” “Actually,” said another poster, “if Obama were to win, it would be the best thing that ever happened to the Klan. They would have massive growth.” And “TeutonicLegion” said that “a whole bunch of people will join us and find these boards” if Obama becomes president.

David DukeEven David Duke (right), the neo-Nazi and former Klan boss who is the closest thing the movement has to a real intellectual these days, sees clear advantages in an Obama victory in the fall. “Obama will be a signal, a clear signal for millions of our people,” Duke wrote in an essay entitled “A Black Flag for White America” last week. “Obama is like that new big dark spot on your arm that finally sends you to the doctor for some real medicine. … Obama is the pain that let’s [sic] your body know that something is dreadfully wrong. Obama will let the American people know that there is a real cancer eating away at the heart of our country and Republican aspirin will not only not cure it, but only masks the pain and makes you think you don’t need radical surgery. … My bet is that whether Obama wins or loses in November, millions of European Americans will inevitably react with new awareness of their heritage and the need for them to defend and advance it.”

Opinion on the radical right is far from unanimous on the topic of a possible Obama victory. Many of those writing on the topic — perhaps half of those who have posted recently — think an Obama presidency would destroy the country and oppose it mightily. On the other hand, there is virtually no enthusiasm on the radical right for presumptive Republican nominee John McCain, who is widely seen by white supremacists as a sellout, particularly on the issue of nonwhite immigration into the United States. But increasing numbers think that a bad situation with a black president will be good for their movement.

“Thomas Dixon Jr.,” a Stormfront poster using the name of the racist author who wrote the classic novel The Clansman, put it like this: “As WLP [William Luther Pierce, the late leader of the neo-Nazi National Alliance] would say… ‘What is bad for the system is good for us.’” “Obama,” added “The Patriot” in the same thread, “would be better for our cause in the long run, no doubt about it.”

[BrandonWhat]

Not much to say to that kind of stupidity, but the "Worse is better" logic had already been employed four years ago when we had to make the distinction between a war-hungry jackass and a spineless jackass. Just look at the current state of the GOP and what they've got riding the helm: a rambling dinosaur and a retard from podunk Alaska.

Anyways, I do love when people like these identify themselves so publicly. This way, if anyone ever needs to go on an extermination binge, they know where to start.

[Nyteshade]

If there's one thing this election has shown me it's either:

A) Racism is much much more alive in this country than I thought
B) The remaining racist fuckwads are getting a LOT more press time than usual


I really hope B is the case and it's just blowing things out of proportion.

[Keith P]

So we shouldn't vote for Obama bc of white supremacists? Please tell me you're not trying to use this as argument.

[Sir Meh]

Originally Posted by Keith P

So we shouldn't vote for Obama bc of white supremacists? Please tell me you're not trying to use this as argument.

No you dolt, I was just posting an article to make people aware of groups like this because I thought it was interesting.

[Keith P]

Originally Posted by Sir Meh

No you dolt, I was just posting an article to make people aware of groups like this because I thought it was interesting.

They don't warrant any press or attention imo.

[Sir Meh]

Originally Posted by Keith P

They don't warrant any press or attention imo.

[MC Twinkie]

Actually I kind of have the same feeling toward McCain. Its like burning down an old rotting forest, the land becomes fertial again and it grows back even stronger. And he will kick out the mexicans... The problem is people really only think about civics when its voting season. The rest of the year 100s of bills pass without a thought to the common voter. People are more worried about whats on TV.

According to bush though, it doesnt matter who wins because you cant hurt america even if you try. So fuck it, lets elect a turkey for president.

[TheAmazon]

Originally Posted by Nyteshade

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A) Racism is much much more alive in this country than I thought
usual


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been trying to tell ya'll.

[Sir Meh]

Originally Posted by TheAmazon

been trying to tell ya'll.

Of course there is still tons of it. Most racism comes from the uneducated and ignorant. As long as there are those out there, then there will always be hatred for people unlike themselves. One thing I notice a lot of people don't acknowledge is the racism between minority groups against each other though.

[I AM EL-NINO]

Originally Posted by BrandonWhat

Not much to say to that kind of stupidity, but the "Worse is better" logic had already been employed four years ago when we had to make the distinction between a war-hungry jackass and a spineless jackass. Just look at the current state of the GOP and what they've got riding the helm: a rambling dinosaur and a retard from podunk Alaska.

Anyways, I do love when people like these identify themselves so publicly. This way, if anyone ever needs to go on an extermination binge, they know where to start.

YA cause you know Obuma and Biden are just so fucking perfect arnt they?

[I AM EL-NINO]

Originally Posted by MC Twinkie

Actually I kind of have the same feeling toward McCain. Its like burning down an old rotting forest, the land becomes fertial again and it grows back even stronger. And he will kick out the mexicans... The problem is people really only think about civics when its voting season. The rest of the year 100s of bills pass without a thought to the common voter. People are more worried about whats on TV.

According to bush though, it doesnt matter who wins because you cant hurt america even if you try. So fuck it, lets elect a turkey for president.

Kik out the Mexicans?????
He has been one of the bigest advocates for immigration of illegals into the US.

[BrandonWhat]

Originally Posted by I AM EL-NINO

YA cause you know Obuma and Biden are just so fucking perfect arnt they?

No, far from it, just not nearly as far from it as the other option. Both parties can each take one of my balls in their mouth and roll them around for about four years for all I care.

But anyone who calls the "lesser of two evils" logic in US presidential elections a tired argument with dead end logic should just stay home and turn an apolitical shoulder towards all of this, because when we're stuck with a weak, two-party system that can never fully represent our ideologies, the "lesser" is all we've got--unless you really want to waste your vote on Independent for the sake of pride and dignity that only you and the people you tell will ever know about.

[BrandonWhat]

Originally Posted by MC Twinkie

Actually I kind of have the same feeling toward McCain. Its like burning down an old rotting forest, the land becomes fertial again and it grows back even stronger.

See, that's what I thought the last four years was going to be--a bit of slash and burn followed by a period of rejuvenation. But I don't think we really need another four years of shit getting worse before it gets better.

[Ash]

that's a bit of a stretch.

Ambition drives people to do amazing things. I associate white supremacists with a lot of things, but ambition is not one of them.