Israeli Apartheid

[Gator]

Since I didn't get any responses to this in the other thread, I thought I'd give it another chance. Anyone care to watch the video and comment...

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4752349n

[Hubb]

fuck israel

thats how i feel. I get it, a bad man baked most of your kinsmen in an oven, but you can quit taking it out on the palestinians now. If someone came to texas and took like 92% of texas for themselves, texans would have done blowed up the world.

I hate that my tax money goes to any part of that bullshit.

[Gator]

Nothing? Really? I was sure some of you Islamaphobic-Zionist-loving fools would try to discredit the facts or, better yet, admit you've been previously misinformed about the situation. Oh well, I'll trust that at least one person watched the video and might be thinking a little differently now.

[Funkenstein]

I watched it earlier and forgot to add commentary.

It sucks that things have to be that way over SOIL. The comparison to Apartheid was a bit strong until I saw what the guy pointed out (by way of the checkpoints).

Secondary living as a secondary citizen.



Hopefully that one woman (forgot the name) that rose to office can find a way to rationale with the Israeli forces into understanding that sharing the soil instead of continuing bloodshed for naught is a better path to an answer.

There are two parties at fault here.

God help them all.

[Gator]

Originally Posted by Funkenstein

There are two parties at fault here.

God help them all.

I agree. But one side seems to think that they are "God's chosen people" and as such, that they own the land and can do whatever they want to rule over it. If anything can make getting shit on any worse, it's having the guy who's shitting on you claim it's his right to do so because he's "God's chosen one".

[johnny861]

I hold Israel equally as responsible for the crimes in palestine as Hamas.

If the violence is considered perpetual, then the parties who perpetuate the violence should be held with equal responsibility.

so that being said, Fuck Israel and Fuck Hamas!


Honestly, they should make Palestine an independent state, which include the territories captured by Israel since 1967.

All "holy" cities should be ceded and indoctrined as international districts governed by the UN or some other internationally recognized organization.

At that point, treaties should be established involving eastern and western nations, to ensure the independance and solidarity of both states and defining actions against those who wish to challenge such solidarity.

just a thought...

[BradH]

Originally Posted by Hubb

fuck israel

thats how i feel. I get it, a bad man baked most of your kinsmen in an oven, but you can quit taking it out on the palestinians now. If someone came to texas and took like 92% of texas for themselves, texans would have done blowed up the world.

I hate that my tax money goes to any part of that bullshit.

lol yeah, cause that's exactly what happened.

Originally Posted by johnny861

Honestly, they should make Palestine an independent state, which include the territories captured by Israel since 1967.

Funny they tried doing that a long, long time ago. Guess who didn't want to do it? Hmmmm "Palestine" and all the arab countries.

[Gator]

Originally Posted by BradH

Funny they tried doing that a long, long time ago. Guess who didn't want to do it? Hmmmm "Palestine" and all the arab countries.

What they didn't want was perpetual occupation. The track record had already been established. Israel would do whatever it wanted in the name of being "God's chosen people" to exercise control over Palestinians and the land they used to roam free on. The ridiculous number of unnecessary roadblocks, the harassment that goes down at those roadblocks, the Israeli-settler-only roads... who's going to trust assholes like that?

As far as how it all started... all that land was shared by Christians, Muslims, and Jews at one point not very long ago. They all lay claims to it historically and each have their reasons. So they shared it. Then all of a sudden, the big bad USA and UK decide that they're going to cave in to the immense in influence of "God's chosen people" and carve it all up and give 90% of the land to them. And that's the best 90%. And then I believe "God's chosen people" decided that wasn't enough for them so they had to take more of it and set up checkpoints to limit the flow of those second-class people who used to roam free around there. Where did I go wrong

You wanna bitch about who opposed what? Why has Israel been so opposed in the past to UN peacekeeping monitors to help man the supposedly necessary checkpoints? Makes perfect sense to me. If all those condemnations from Amnesty International about how Israelis treat Palestinians at those checkpoints are false, then let some independent observers in on the action and clear your name. But no, they don't have to. They have the media spin machine that clears them of any wrong-doing so they do whatever the fuck they want. They are "God's chosen people" after all.

[johnny861]

Originally Posted by BradH

Funny they tried doing that a long, long time ago. Guess who didn't want to do it? Hmmmm "Palestine" and all the arab countries.

Yea, I doubt Hamas and a number of Arab nations would ever want to see a Palestinian state, so long as Israel exists.

so I say, by hook or by crook, it should happen...

[Hubb]

Originally Posted by BradH

lol yeah, cause that's exactly what happened.


Funny they tried doing that a long, long time ago. Guess who didn't want to do it? Hmmmm "Palestine" and all the arab countries.

http://www.teeth.com.pk/blog/wp-cont...tine%20map.jpg

it is what happened, get educated before u mock.
This specific demo map is only current till 2000

[johnny861]

Originally Posted by Hubb

http://www.teeth.com.pk/blog/wp-cont...tine%20map.jpg

it is what happened, get educated before u mock.
This specific demo map is only current till 2000

1946? Where's the color that indicates British control?
This map lacks...

[Hubb]

Originally Posted by johnny861

1946? Where's the color that indicates British control?
This map lacks...

You mean the british control that was given to the isralei's.
Its one of the most convuluded formations of any state in history.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1060052.html

[johnny861]

Originally Posted by Hubb

You mean the british control that was given to the isralei's.
Its one of the most convuluded formations of any state in history.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1060052.html

All I'm saying is it's not like Palestine was some independent nation before Israel; just one nation trading off land to another, just like the whole history of the region.

[Sinner]

I'm just glad I don't live there. I don't understand any of that stuff.

Do.. not.. cum... pute...

[johnny861]

Originally Posted by NoKegger4U

I'm just glad I don't live there. I don't understand any of that stuff.

Do.. not.. cum... pute...

word. Worthless desert real estate if you ask me...