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Old 03-23-09, 04:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So the U.S. military is finally deploying these creepy looking fuckers to Afghanistan

I still remember when they were doing RnD on them, couldn't have been that long ago...

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The U.S. military is calling out the "BigDogs" in addition to its big guns as it deploys more troops to fight terrorists in Afghanistan.

The BigDogs — four-legged robots that can navigate the country's treacherous terrain — and pilotless helicopters than can transport tons of supplies to very remote bases are just two of the new weapons being tested in Afghanistan.

The war zone is increasingly becoming a development laboratory for machines that don't eat, sleep, polish their boots or suffer casualties. But can they succeed where man struggles?

It takes a moment for the senses even to comprehend BigDog, a four-legged robot that vaguely resembles a headless pack animal.

The machine's creator, Boston Dynamics, has a motto — “dedicated to the way things move” — and that’s precisely what is both jarring and fascinating about its invention. Using a gasoline engine that emits an eerie lawnmower buzz, BigDog has animal-inspired articulated legs that absorb shock and recycle kinetic energy from one step to the next.

Its robot brain, a sophisticated computer, controls locomotion sensors that adapt rapidly to the environment. The entire control system regulates, steers and navigates ground contact. A laser gyroscope keeps BigDog on his metal paws — even when the robot slips, stumbles or is kicked over.

Boston Dynamics says BigDog can run as fast as 4 miles per hour, walk slowly, lie down and climb slopes up to 35 degrees. BigDog's heightened sense can also survey the surrounding terrain and become alert to potential danger.

All told, the BigDog bears an uncanny resemblance to a living organic animal and not what it really is: A metal exo-skeleton moved by a hydraulic actuation system designed to carry over 300 pounds of equipment over ice, sand and rocky mountainsides.

So much for the ground war. With IED attacks in Afghanistan increasing on land, air transportation has become a major focus for the military.

Routine helicopter flights operating 24 hours a day, year round, are crucial for the American mission. The Marine Corps has recently called for unmanned cargo flights to carry essentials to isolated areas that can be reached only by air.

Enter the K-MAX, a remote-controlled helicopter designed to transport heavy loads — even in Afghanistan's high altitudes.

The K-MAX's unique rotor design — two intermeshed rotors turning in opposite directions and slightly angled to prevent the blades from colliding — give this unmanned aircraft a distinct advantage.

“All the energy goes into the lift and eliminates the need for the tail rotor,” said Frans Jurgens, spokesman for Kaman Aerospace Corp, which manufactures the K-MAX.

The design enables the relatively small chopper to tow up to 6,000 pounds. “The K-MAX is basically an aerial truck,” Jurgens said.

A ground controller “pilots” the unmanned aircraft using a “digital tablet” — a portable device the size of a clipboard attached to a backpack. The controller has visual contact with the aircraft during takeoff and can see where the K-MAX is going through a camera attached to the unmanned helicopter.

Unlike other unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), the K-MAX currently requires some visual contact — ground controllers to launch and retrieve the aircraft.

During a flight, K-MAX's “autonomous flight brain” calculates the best route to its destination and can automatically re-route itself should an area be designated a “no-fly” zone.

After launch, control transfers to a second ground controller waiting at the point of capture. Once the K-MAX has been sighted, the destination controller discharges the cargo by remote command.

But some in the military remain skeptical that a robot and a distant operator can replace a skilled pilot.

“When you’re dealing with a small area and a very small margin of error, mountains, temperatures, and other factors like heavy unpredictable winds, it’s hard to believe unmanned flights could account for all the variables,” Chief Warrant Officer Timothy Smail, a pilot from Eagle Lift, the 7th battallion 101st Aviation Regiment, told FOXNews.com in a phone interview from Afghanistan.

“Everything those troops have we’re responsible for bringing,” Smail said. “Not saying it can’t be done, I would just be skeptical.”

After two tours in Iraq, Smail is serving a second tour in Afghanistan, which he says is the “most difficult place to pilot in the world.”

But, Jurgens is not concerned.

“The K-MAX will fly repetitive flights that can be predictably programmed,” he said. “Given the fact that traveling by ground convoy is not the preferred transportation, unmanned cargo flights can save pilots from routine unnecessary exposure.”

KMAX has never been deployed to a war zone, but the unmanned aircraft has been a robotic workhorse in the logging industry, where it transfers heavy loads at high altitudes. It has also been used to transport water to fight forest fires.

They'll never fully replace actual people, but robots and unmanned vehicles will spare soldiers from routine tasks and enable them to focus their experience and skills on missions that require the human touch.
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Old 03-24-09, 12:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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first the mexicans and now robots are taking jobs that americans will do
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Wow. I couldn't imagine running into one of those out in the wild. We are living in the future. Never thought I'd see shit like this in my lifetime.
 
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I'm trying to figure out the point of the dog robot. A carrying capacity of 300 pounds and a top speed of 4 mph?

Oh noes! It's coming right for us!! We better walk away!!
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I'm trying to figure out the point of the dog robot. A carrying capacity of 300 pounds and a top speed of 4 mph?

Oh noes! It's coming right for us!! We better walk away!!
resupply soldiers in the field
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I'm sure humvees are much more cost effective for that.
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I'm sure humvees are much more cost effective for that.
they can't drive up a wooded hill and require at a minimum one driver - the robot doesn't = fewer dead soldiers?
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they can't drive up a wooded hill and require at a minimum one driver - the robot doesn't = fewer dead soldiers?
exactly. It's intended for terrain that vehicles can't travel. Can carry several times the load of a pack mule and won't keel over and die or bleed to death if shot and can be autonomously guided.

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All Hail. The armored battle donkey! lol
Francis the Talking Mule just lost out to outsourcing of tech, lol.

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exactly. It's intended for terrain that vehicles can't travel. Can carry several times the load of a pack mule and won't keel over and die or bleed to death if shot and can be autonomously guided.

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Meh, sounds like a ton of money for extremely situational use. 300 pounds of supplies isn't very much and at 4 mph, you would nearly have to maintain a caravan of these things for each unit you were supplying. As far as terrain goes and any perceived danger in the field, an air drop would probably be better in most cases.
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Meh, sounds like a ton of money for extremely situational use. 300 pounds of supplies isn't very much and at 4 mph, you would nearly have to maintain a caravan of these things for each unit you were supplying. As far as terrain goes and any perceived danger in the field, an air drop would probably be better in most cases.
parachutes aren't self navigating and the technology won't improve - I suspect (silly wild ass guess actually) the fuel from a drop costs as much as one of those mules

I suspect we're at a phase of this war where we're testing stuff for the next war

these things could lag behind troops w/ammo, medical supplies, water, satellite uplinks and other equipment that the soldier would otherwise carry thus freeing him up to pay attention to more important issues
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What happens if someone walks by one of the robot dogs and knocks it on it's back???

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