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Old 05-29-09, 04:52 PM   #16 (permalink)
 
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Re: Judge Sonia Sotomayor

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i like to read quotes in context.
I see you're typing, but I don't see anything of substance. I pulled this from one of the articles discussing the controversy. Please tell me how else this could be interpreted:

"They have labeled Sotomayor a "reverse racist" for saying in a speech in 2001 that she hopes a "wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."'

And, btw, you're entirely ignoring what I said in my original response, which is that I have reservations but am withholding judgment for now.
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Old 05-29-09, 04:53 PM   #17 (permalink)
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If Chief Justice Roberts had said, "I think I bring the perspective of a wise white man to the bench" how do you think people would have reacted?
well it would have been stupid, cuz there has always been white men on the bench.

i will admit it is a precarious choice of words, perhaps 'different' would be more appropriate than 'better'.
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well it would have been stupid, cuz there has always been white men on the bench.
Go back to page 1 where I introduced that thought.

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i dont care how good you are at something, im still not jumping on the American bandwagon of rewarding people for bad behavior or being a douchebag. Look whats its done to most of society. Now, because people see acting like that getting rewards, the world is overun with douchebags and bitches thinking behaving that way gets them what they want or respect. Sorry, it's lame.
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Re: Judge Sonia Sotomayor

at the same time if the republicans really believed that she was an out an out racist, then they would attack her, but instead they have stalled since it could alienate mexican voters.
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They have been attacking her. Those two quotes everyone keeps talking about hit the Fox News page within seconds of her name being mentioned. They're just trying to pretend that's not what they're doing.
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well it would have been stupid, cuz there has always been white men on the bench.

i will admit it is a precarious choice of words, perhaps 'different' would be more appropriate than 'better'.
It would have been stupid not because there have always been white men on the bench. It would have been stupid because it would be specifically racist.

All well and good that you think she should have chosen different words. She didn't though. She chose them in a prepared speech to Berkley School of Law students. That's not just a slip or an oversight.

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at the same time if the republicans really believed that she was an out an out racist, then they would attack her, but instead they have stalled since it could alienate mexican voters.
Doesn't much matter. The DNC has the votes. Even if the GOP could block her I wouldn't argue they shouldn't. Obama is the President and he gets to pick the judges.
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at the same time if the republicans really believed that she was an out an out racist, then they would attack her, but instead they have stalled since it could alienate mexican voters.
LOL. Stash and grab votes are nothing new to them, but just to clear up something that did strike me on the last two pages.

Ol girl is 'Ricano, homie.

Cubans vote Rep mostly, Mexicans in Texas seem to go Dem, but I can't speak for the rest of the country.

They are attacking her selection and comments. This is David Duke without Klan affiliation and a penis.

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They have been attacking her. Those two quotes everyone keeps talking about hit the Fox News page within seconds of her name being mentioned. They're just trying to pretend that's not what they're doing.
they're pretty damning quotes


if Roberts had said, "I think I bring the perspective of a wise white man to the bench and will reach a better conclusion than a black woman would" it would be plastered on thew news 24/7 and he'd have been forced to withdraw his nomination.
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I should have said latino voters ruf
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I should have said latino voters ruf
I figured as much. Beating out the Xian level analysis by getting to the facts faster and before it becomes a pin to pop a balloon with.

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Yep.

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they're pretty damning quotes
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yea...and she's a member of La Raza ("The Race"), which is a questionably racist group in and of itself (known to support initiatives like returning certain states of the Southwest to Mexican rule).
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So she's basically the Sarah Palin of the Left. haha
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I won't quite sign off on that statement. Her murky abortion stance kind of flies in the face of that as well.
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Here's an interesting article that just got posted on cnn.com:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/...use/index.html
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