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Old 06-03-09, 01:01 PM   #31 (permalink)
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But how much tolerance is he really promoting if he's against allowing you to marry?
Its the prez of the most powerful nation in the world promoting tolerance and eqaulity for the gays. Forget about the marriage part for a moment and look at the big picture.
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Bush: You stupid gays and your stupid gay marriage. We need to ban that gross nasty shit. The queers cannot win the war on marriage.

Obama: I don't support gay marriage, but, hey gays, this month's for you. Enjoy the anal festivities and whatever it is you do. Just be safe and have fun.
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I agree with Johnny. I mean, I dont think this makes Obama look any better than the rest. I pretty muched assumed this issue ( no matter how little is addressed) would be coming any time now.
He's the first president to do anything near this vocal and without anything terrible occuring causing him to do so. He didnt have to come out and say this but he did.
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it's more tolerance than what was supported a year ago.

and the year before that.

and next year it will be more tolerance.

and more the following year.

then, we will take over and all your babies will be gay and we will win.
This.

And gdamnit @ the bolded part
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Old 06-03-09, 01:46 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Translation: "Hey homos, I'm going to distract you with a meaningless declaration instead of doing anything about marriage. XOXO, Bams"
lol - no shit

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It's meaningless lip service, and frankly I'm surprised you're even remotely interested in this horseshit given that he's on record as saying he opposes gay marriage. I bet you'd go back to Ike Turner if he apologized, wouldn't you?

Hey!!! Ike loved Tina. He never hit her and when he did it was only because he had to because she was actin' all crazy and shit. Hater!@

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Im sorry but Im glad to see Obama promoting the gay community in a positive as opposed to past president who pushed constitutional ammendment to restict our rights.
Restrict your rights? You know I support changing the definition of marriage but its hardly a right denied. And, Obama supports denying you that right. How is he the right guy?
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Old 06-03-09, 01:49 PM   #33 (permalink)
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lol - no shit
so you're saying that Obama should just skip over the whole thing about trying to let America embrace homos a bit more and just make marriage legal for any 2 consenting adults?
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Old 06-03-09, 01:50 PM   #34 (permalink)
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so you're saying that Obama should just skip over the whole thing about trying to let America embrace homos a bit more and just make marriage legal for any 2 consenting adults?
nope. I'm saying he is patronizing you.
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Old 06-03-09, 01:55 PM   #35 (permalink)
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The LGBT rights movement has achieved great progress, but there is more work to be done. LGBT youth should feel safe to learn without the fear of harassment, and LGBT families and seniors should be allowed to live their lives with dignity and respect.

yall forget that marriage isn't the only issue.

I, personally, am not out at work for fear of being fired.

I had a friend lose a house he and his lover had been living in for a cpl years after his lover died unexpectedly because the homo hating family came in and swiped it. Even though they had dis-owned their songs many years before the death.


This is a huge step in changing the hearts and minds of America.

Leave it up to ravers to turn a very positive step negative.
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Re: Obama declares June 2009 LGBT pride month

a politician can say he opposes changing the legal definition of marriage because that's what is safe for his political career... and then do something like Obama has done so that maybe some day it won't be as much of a hot topic
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Restrict your rights? You know I support changing the definition of marriage but its hardly a right denied. And, Obama supports denying you that right. How is he the right guy?
We are already denied that right. What I should have said was that the past prez wanted to diminish the chances that we ever get that right by ammending the constitution to never allow it from happening.
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nope. I'm saying he is patronizing you.
Again, we all realize this has little concrete change behind it, but you cant deny that this has never happened before. He's not running for office and by doing this he may have alienated part of his base anyway. So why would he do so if he was just patronizing us? What does he gain from this??
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nope. I'm saying he is patronizing you.

So he shouldn't even say anything until I can marry a dude?
He should just stay silent?
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Re: Obama declares June 2009 LGBT pride month

Yeah, everyone knows that civil rights and social acceptance happen overnight and by presidential executive order. Jesus, just because he is showing compassion and tolerence doesn't means he likes you fags. He just wants some pole points.
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We are already denied that right.
No. You do not have now (nor has anyone) ever had the right to marry some one of the same sex. You're asking for something new. I support the request but don't confuse it with a right denied.

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So he shouldn't even say anything until I can marry a dude?
He should just stay silent?
OK - be happy about it. I think he's being patronizing. Especially in light of the fact that he does not support changing the definition of marriage to include same sex couples.
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way to think like a lawyer
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doesn't means he likes you fags. He just wants some pole points.
I don't give a damn if he really likes homos or not.

Ppl love Obama.
And if he stands up and lies about loving homos, his followers will follow him.
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way to think like a lawyer
yeah, well, some of us actually do have to think rather than simply react... but you do have that mindless flailing bit down cold so, bravo to you
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OK - be happy about it. I think he's being patronizing. Especially in light of the fact that he does not support changing the definition of marriage to include same sex couples.

Obama isn't going to make it happen, or stop it from happening.

America will.

And stuff like this calls the moderate to be more accepting.
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Ppl love Obama.
And if he stands up and lies about loving homos, his followers will follow him.
He's got at most 7.5 years left. What then? If you want to win this hearts and minds campaign, imo, you need to convince people who currently don't support your aims. By and large... they hate Obama. So, you've got the converted on board and Obama just smiled and waved at them. You've been helped in your cause how?
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