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Old 06-03-09, 02:37 PM   #76 (permalink)
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And really, that's up to the liberal media and Jews in Hollywood to do.
haha - and their so even handed about it too

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well, I was just joking w/ that comment.

Of course asians shouldn't be allowed to drive. and we certainly need to get the damned catholic mexicans into houses and not living 30 to an apartment.
Or we could get a shit ton a vans and park 'em down by the river?

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And something I just thought about, won't this mean that schools will teach about teh ghey buttseckz now?

Just like Blackieness is taught about in Feb?
I'da been on board if they'da taught it to young girls as an alternative form of birth control when I was in HS... but sinced I no longer have any shot of doing innocent little teenage girls IDB anymore I really don't much care.
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You're asserting a right where none exists. You're touching on an equal protection argument where it fails. Words matter. They matter a lot.



Now, where in the hell did you read that? Seriously. Please, show me where I told you to sit down, shut up and like it. The essence of what I said is that you're going to be more successful with honey than with vinegar. Calling the voters you need to get the law changed bigots is unlikely to sway them to your side. You trying to get me off your damn bus PJ?
Im saying the fact that we cant marry is a denial of a right that most americans enjoy. Whether or not it was taken away at some point in no way makes it any less of a denial. The fact that you are saying since we never had said right make me feel like well then, I guess I have no arguement that the current definition doesnt exclude me and therefore I have no right to question. Regardless of the wording, and I do realize that is what ultimately matters and what is being fought, doesnt make it any less uneqaul.

And how am I spewing vinager? im just expressing my feeling on the matter, a matter that happens to be pretty close to my heart. Sorry if I let my passion for people to be treated eqaul, which is how the constitution, the foundation our countrys laws and protections, states that we were created. A little passion cant hurt, and sometimes honey just isnt enough to make a change. Sometimes you have to fight for it.
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oh they don't call it salmon?
haha... my wife's boss wears pink... and other pastel colors all the time. Course he wears ties that cost more than my first car too so I guess for some... it must be just fine.
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I'da been on board if they'da taught it to young girls as an alternative form of birth control when I was in HS... but sinced I no longer have any shot of doing innocent little teenage girls IDB anymore I really don't much care.
you know, I said that comment just kinda off the cuff, but the more I think about it, the more important it is...

if it's homos aren't taught about like blackies, then yeah, it really is patronizing.
but if important homos are taught about for a month, that will REALLY piss off a lot of ppl.


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haha... my wife's boss wears pink... and other pastel colors all the time. Course he wears ties that cost more than my first car too so I guess for some... it must be just fine.
he's a fag.
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Im saying the fact that we cant marry is a denial of a right that most americans enjoy. Whether or not it was taken away at some point in no way makes it any less of a denial. The fact that you are saying since we never had said right make me feel like well then, I guess I have no arguement that the current definition doesnt exclude me and therefore I have no right to question. Regardless of the wording, and I do realize that is what ultimately matters and what is being fought, doesnt make it any less uneqaul.
well - I was explicit about where I stand on the issue. If that didn't suggest to you that I think you should be given the right I don't know what will. That doesn't equate to you currently being denied a right - you're not. And that doesn't mean you shouldn't have the right - you should.

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And how am I spewing vinager? im just expressing my feeling on the matter, a matter that happens to be pretty close to my heart. Sorry if I let my passion for people to be treated eqaul, which is how the constitution, the foundation our countrys laws and protections, states that we were created. A little passion cant hurt, and sometimes honey just isnt enough to make a change. Sometimes you have to fight for it.
You don't think the allegation, "You're denying my rights" isn't vinegar?

We are created equal. That means equal before the law. It doesn't mean everyone gets every result they wish or that all results will be equal. That which is denied to you is denied to everyone. That's equal. What you want is something no one has ever had. I support you but don't confuse it with being denied equality at law.
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he's a fag.
if you met him you'd be thinking he was a big old cuddly bear... but he's straight with a bunch of kids. He's just got the metrosexual thing going on in spades. The man is a bigger preening peacock like ball of vanity than all but a handful of women I've known.
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and... you don't change the definition of the fundamental building block of society to effect a change in the tax code PJ. That's a foolish argument.
I was just stating if we could marry we could file jointly. You know what I was saying. I dont want it changed for the tax breaks but all the other shit too.
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well, I was just joking w/ that comment.

Of course asians shouldn't be allowed to drive. and we certainly need to get the damned catholic mexicans into houses and not living 30 to an apartment.
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if it's homos aren't taught about like blackies, then yeah, it really is patronizing.
It was convieniently put in June as to avoid such an abomination being taught in our schools.
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It was convieniently put in June as to avoid such an abomination being taught in our schools.
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well - I was explicit about where I stand on the issue. If that didn't suggest to you that I think you should be given the right I don't know what will. That doesn't equate to you currently being denied a right - you're not. And that doesn't mean you shouldn't have the right - you should.



You don't think the allegation, "You're denying my rights" isn't vinegar?

We are created equal. That means equal before the law. It doesn't mean everyone gets every result they wish or that all results will be equal. That which is denied to you is denied to everyone. That's equal. What you want is something no one has ever had. I support you but don't confuse it with being denied equality at law.
FTR - I know where you stand on the issue. This isnt the first time its been debated b/tw you and I. Perhaps denied is the wrong word. All im saying is a majority of the population gets certain rights that the rest of us are not. It doesnt get more simple than that. Its unqaul. Period.
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I was just stating if we could marry we could file jointly. You know what I was saying. I dont want it changed for the tax breaks but all the other shit too.
No. I know what you wrote. I'm not going to presume you meant something else. I understand the clarification and yes, that would be true and a good thing.

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FTR - I know where you stand on the issue. This isnt the first time its been debated b/tw you and I. Perhaps denied is the wrong word. All im saying is a majority of the population gets certain rights that the rest of us are not. It doesnt get more simple than that. Its unqaul. Period.
And I'm trying to explain to you that they don't get rights you don't get. That those rights you have are less meaningful to you may be true but the law doesn't mean one thing to PJ and another to Xian. It is applied equally. That means some people will be unhappy with the results. Sometimes we need to fix that. We agree this is one of those times.
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No. I know what you wrote. I'm not going to presume you meant something else. I understand the clarification and yes, that would be true and a good thing.
Uhmmm the part you singled out was no more/less important than the rest. You made it sound like I wanted to change the laws just to enjoy that one aspect. Thats not what I meant.
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And I'm trying to explain to you that they don't get rights you don't get. That those rights you have are less meaningful to you may be true but the law doesn't mean one thing to PJ and another to Xian. It is applied equally. That means some people will be unhappy with the results. Sometimes we need to fix that. We agree this is one of those times.
Yes i agree the law is applied equally, BUT the law itself is unequal.
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Yes i agree the law is applied equally, BUT the law itself is unequal.
the results may be.... but unequal results follow from the fact that people are not identical.
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