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jaesun · 06-04-09, 07:12 AM

Thought I'd start a thread on it.

Who else watched the entire thing this morning? I'll post the videos once they're on the interweb later this morning.

Hey Bubu · 06-04-09, 08:35 AM

what did he say? (gist of it anyway)

jaesun · 06-04-09, 09:11 AM

Well (the gist of it) he covered several topics from, muslim angst against America and vice versa, female education in Muslim culture, Israel and Palestine's places is the Middle East, Iran, nuclear weapons, etc.

IMO - Some of it was pandering to the Middle East and Muslim Culture, and some of it seemed to stand strong. For a guy who couldn't try hard enough to hide his Muslim roots durring the campaign, he sure seemed proud of it today.

Give me a few to find all of the videos that complete the speech and you judge and comment.

jaesun · 06-04-09, 09:17 AM

Well here is what I found on YouTube. It was posted by a guy that calls himself "TheRaceCard" so I hope he didn't comment over the speech. (I don't have speakers at work).

This isn't all of it either. Just the first part. Not all of it seems to be up on the interwebs just yet.

EDIT: I guess TheRaceCard aint got his 'ish together this morning. He just posted Part Zero.

President Obama Cairo Speech (part 0)

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President Obama Cairo Speech (part 2)

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President Obama Cairo Speech (part 3)

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zerojunkie · 06-04-09, 09:39 AM

oh this is funny, only made it through part one, but I like how the only sort of reaction the crowd gives is when he's talking about Israeli concessions. Talk about violence as a means of change, no reaction. Talk about Israel ceasing the expansion of settlements, and the crowd goes wild.

jaesun · 06-04-09, 10:26 AM

HERE!! Found the entire thing on one video....

President Obama Speaks to the Muslim World from Cairo, Egypt

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Deff Gordon · 06-04-09, 01:07 PM

i thought it was a good one. showing how we all need each other. how all civilizations work and should work together.

jaesun · 06-04-09, 01:21 PM

There were a few statements that bothered me throughout. One off the top of my head... I thought it was good how he mentioned women's education. However he didn't really talk about their treatment and abuse. He even said he respects their RIGHT to wear niqabs. As if covering them up has nothing to do with discrimination. And thats just one of the small things they do to their women.

I'd lay down a few more but I'm at work. Maybe tonight I'll log on and give it some honest thought and post the rest.

Overall it sounded like a good speech but there WERE a few things I think he did wrong that might hurt us in the future. Mainly with some of his statements on Israel.

name change request · 06-04-09, 01:24 PM

i'll be watching this later.. hopefully it stays on youtube til then.

Deff Gordon · 06-04-09, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jaesun

There were a few statements that bothered me throught. One off the top of my head... I thought it was good how he mentioned women's education. However he didn't really talk about their treatment and abuse. He even said he respects their RIGHT to wear niqabs. As if covering them up has nothing to do with discrimination. And thats just one of the small things they do to their women.

well... you can't go in with guns blazin'

it was a great first step to open a dialog.

we are talking about different civilizations and beliefs. i just got back last week from a muslim country. it's different to say the least.

jaesun · 06-04-09, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Deff Gordon

well... you can't go in with guns blazin'

we are talking about different civilizations and beliefs. i just got back last week from a muslim country. it's different to say the least.

Sorry edited and added to my last statement you quoted. Didn't think anyone would answer that fast and I had to fix some typing errors.

Deff Gordon · 06-04-09, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jaesun

Sorry edited and added to my last statement you quoted. Didn't think anyone would answer that fast and I had to fix some typing errors.

aint nuffin to it yo

jaesun · 06-04-09, 01:34 PM

Where is everyone else who posts in A&P? I only saw the speech once and it was this morning while I was half asleep eating my Captin Crunch.

Thoughts? Opinions? Anyone? Anyone? Beuller?

Deff Gordon · 06-04-09, 02:04 PM

they are too excited about gay pride month to care.

PETA · 06-04-09, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Deff Gordon

i thought it was a good one. showing how we all need each other. how all civilizations work and should work together.

he really peddling that bs?

What does the world need from Noreth Korea? Myanmar? Yemen? Somalia? The Palestinians? etc etc etc etc... the world needs the US much more than the converse.

I know I know... heal wounds.. can't we all get along.. I'd like that too but I don't see how pandering to the better angels of the world's worst leaders will accomplish this.

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Originally Posted by jaesun

There were a few statements that bothered me throughout. One off the top of my head... I thought it was good how he mentioned women's education. However he didn't really talk about their treatment and abuse. He even said he respects their RIGHT to wear niqabs. As if covering them up has nothing to do with discrimination. And thats just one of the small things they do to their women.

Iranian women are often well educated... just not permitted to work in positions that reflect that education.

The head covering tradition in Islam... well... that goers all the way back to... Khomeni's gender apartheid efforts.... and pre-Islam arab tribal customs.

06-04-09, 07:12 AM	#1 (permalink)
jaesun Trust but verify. Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: DFW Posts: 3,458	Obama's Speach to the Muslim world... Thought I'd start a thread on it. Who else watched the entire thing this morning? I'll post the videos once they're on the interweb later this morning. __________________ jæsun 4a e6 73 75 6e "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free."

06-04-09, 08:35 AM	#2 (permalink)
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06-04-09, 09:11 AM	#3 (permalink)
jaesun Trust but verify. Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: DFW Posts: 3,458	Re: Obama's Speach to the Muslim world... Well (the gist of it) he covered several topics from, muslim angst against America and vice versa, female education in Muslim culture, Israel and Palestine's places is the Middle East, Iran, nuclear weapons, etc. IMO - Some of it was pandering to the Middle East and Muslim Culture, and some of it seemed to stand strong. For a guy who couldn't try hard enough to hide his Muslim roots durring the campaign, he sure seemed proud of it today. Give me a few to find all of the videos that complete the speech and you judge and comment. __________________ jæsun 4a e6 73 75 6e "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free."

06-04-09, 09:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
jaesun Trust but verify. Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: DFW Posts: 3,458	Re: Obama's Speach to the Muslim world... Well here is what I found on YouTube. It was posted by a guy that calls himself "TheRaceCard" so I hope he didn't comment over the speech. (I don't have speakers at work). This isn't all of it either. Just the first part. Not all of it seems to be up on the interwebs just yet. EDIT: I guess TheRaceCard aint got his 'ish together this morning. He just posted Part Zero. President Obama Cairo Speech (part 0) Close You need to upgrade your Flash Player President Obama Cairo Speech (part 1) Close You need to upgrade your Flash Player President Obama Cairo Speech (part 2) Close You need to upgrade your Flash Player President Obama Cairo Speech (part 3) Close You need to upgrade your Flash Player President Obama Cairo Speech (part 4) Close You need to upgrade your Flash Player __________________ jæsun 4a e6 73 75 6e "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free." Last edited by jaesun; 06-04-09 at 09:46 AM.

06-04-09, 09:39 AM	#5 (permalink)
zerojunkie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: dallas Posts: 2,824	Re: Obama's Speach to the Muslim world... oh this is funny, only made it through part one, but I like how the only sort of reaction the crowd gives is when he's talking about Israeli concessions. Talk about violence as a means of change, no reaction. Talk about Israel ceasing the expansion of settlements, and the crowd goes wild. __________________ I'm in the mood to chop yr. fucking hands off. - Hunter S. Thompson Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something. - Robert Heinlein

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06-04-09, 10:26 AM	#6 (permalink)
jaesun Trust but verify. Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: DFW Posts: 3,458	Re: Obama's Speach to the Muslim world... HERE!! Found the entire thing on one video.... President Obama Speaks to the Muslim World from Cairo, Egypt Close You need to upgrade your Flash Player __________________ jæsun 4a e6 73 75 6e "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free."

06-04-09, 01:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
Deff Gordon ipodfood.com Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: North Dallas Posts: 21,374	Re: Obama's Speach to the Muslim world... i thought it was a good one. showing how we all need each other. how all civilizations work and should work together. __________________ free music @ iPodFood.com upload your music/dj sets here for possible inclusion on edgeclub & iPodFood

06-04-09, 01:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
jaesun Trust but verify. Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: DFW Posts: 3,458	Re: Obama's Speach to the Muslim world... There were a few statements that bothered me throughout. One off the top of my head... I thought it was good how he mentioned women's education. However he didn't really talk about their treatment and abuse. He even said he respects their RIGHT to wear niqabs. As if covering them up has nothing to do with discrimination. And thats just one of the small things they do to their women. I'd lay down a few more but I'm at work. Maybe tonight I'll log on and give it some honest thought and post the rest. Overall it sounded like a good speech but there WERE a few things I think he did wrong that might hurt us in the future. Mainly with some of his statements on Israel. __________________ jæsun 4a e6 73 75 6e "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free."

06-04-09, 01:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
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06-04-09, 01:34 PM	#13 (permalink)
jaesun Trust but verify. Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: DFW Posts: 3,458	Re: Obama's Speach to the Muslim world... Where is everyone else who posts in A&P? I only saw the speech once and it was this morning while I was half asleep eating my Captin Crunch. Thoughts? Opinions? Anyone? Anyone? Beuller? __________________ jæsun 4a e6 73 75 6e "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free."

06-04-09, 02:04 PM	#14 (permalink)
Deff Gordon ipodfood.com Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: North Dallas Posts: 21,374	Re: Obama's Speach to the Muslim world... they are too excited about gay pride month to care. __________________ free music @ iPodFood.com upload your music/dj sets here for possible inclusion on edgeclub & iPodFood

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