Conservatives just don't get it!

[Dionysos]

Originally Posted by FarangBa

Yeah and you've lost grip on reality Mr. God o the Vine! Sorry, but there are some things that are still important in this world and respect is one of them.

Respect should be given when it is earned, not simply because you exist! The General has earned it through continuous service to this country you guys hate so much (in both Dem and Rep Administrations) . What has boxer done besides get re-elected and avoid getting a real job for 26years??

She earned her position, it wasn't handed to her. More-over, she's re-earned it multiple times via re-election. And regardless of how hard you think she works, it's still military protocol that an officer refer to someone by position:

General Jones
Sargent Right
Captain Bligh (when the captain of a ship regardless of rank)
Mr. President
Secretary Gates
Senator Boxer
etc.

I've verified this with multiple veterans from different branches(Navy, Marines, Army specifically). So yea, she's being a pain in the ass, but he also slipped on protocol. In the end, it's only as big as you and the Right want to make it. Realistically, more people care about Jon & Kate Plus 8 than this shit.

[PETA]

lol - Jonny defending Boxer

cats sleeping with dogs !!


Yes, the General (he was a general right?) should have called her Senator but using
the honorific Ma'am wasn't intended to be disrespectful, quite the opposite, and she should have shown the good grace not to dress him down in public.


lol - still funny you're defending that woman

[Dionysos]

Originally Posted by St. Stalin the Apathetic

lol - Jonny defending Boxer

cats sleeping with dogs !!


Yes, the General (he was a general right?) should have called her Senator but using
the honorific Ma'am wasn't intended to be disrespectful, quite the opposite, and she should have shown the good grace not to dress him down in public.


lol - still funny you're defending that woman

I'm not defending her per se, just trying to inject a little bit of fact into the hyperbole. If it was Michelle Bachmann pulling the same stunt, I'd be saying the same thing.

My main point still remains: yes, pulling rank is cunty, but save your energy for bigger problems like wtf Barney Frank was doing telling Fannie & Freddie to relax loan restrictions on condos.

[PETA]

Originally Posted by Dionysos

My main point still remains: yes, pulling rank is cunty, but save your energy for bigger problems like wtf Barney Frank was doing telling Fannie & Freddie to relax loan restrictions on condos.

can't argue with degrees of significance there - Boxer was still a cunt

[zerojunkie]

Originally Posted by FarangBa

Uh Uh... Other way around smarty pants. The second he nominated Palin, his shit went through the roof. The second he voted for the 1st retarded stimulus package...


His campaign was over. Get it right!

Yeah, any success he might have enjoyed right after picking Palin was probably because no one knew how chuck full of fail she was. Moderate conservatives gave McCain the GOP nomination. His problem was that despite the VP nod being given to Palin the far right didn't trust him and in picking Palin he alienated the moderates.

[PETA]

Originally Posted by zerojunkie

Yeah, any success he might have enjoyed right after picking Palin was probably because no one knew how chuck full of fail she was. Moderate conservatives gave McCain the GOP nomination. His problem was that despite the VP nod being given to Palin the far right didn't trust him and in picking Palin he alienated the moderates.

No the far right stuck w/Palin.. whatever the other (many) mistakes and terrible circumstances were.

McCain alienated the hard right over the previous 8 years... Palin ameliorated that... and offended the squishy center


just wrote that... reread your post and noticed I agree with everythign you just said


McCain's biggest adversaries were a hugely unpopular incumbant of the same party and an economy on the brink not his selection of VP or previous bad behavior toward conservatives.

[vinnie97]

But compared to how far to the left Obama is/was, McCain was basically a centrist with an outspoken right-leaning "maverick" sidekick. The MSM was just as responsible for ruining McCain (and Palin) as his association with Bush's party was:

[Nyteshade]

Originally Posted by FarangBa

Is that Redus I see in that pic?

[Dionysos]

Originally Posted by vinnie97

But compared to how far to the left Obama is/was, McCain was basically a centrist with an outspoken right-leaning "maverick" sidekick. The MSM was just as responsible for ruining McCain (and Palin) as his association with Bush's party was:

Only Vinnie would consider an ardent pro-life candidate that openly courted Jerry Falwell a 'centrist'.

[DataBass]

lol @ the Ann Coulter banner at the bottom of this thread. Yuck.

[jaesun]

Originally Posted by molecule

i have a friend here "visiting" from central america. lets just say her status is complex. anyway, we were watching the news the other afternoon and they were debating a border fence. she asked me "what are they so mad about?" so i explained that the person on the left wants the US to build a fence down at the border to help reduce illegals from coming across and the man on the right is mad about that and doesn't want a fence.

she goes and i quote:
"how can he be mad about him wanting a fence? it's only logical that he would want a fence. it's his country. what is this man's problem? i don't understand this country."

I like your friend. Is she hot too?

Originally Posted by St. Stalin the Apathetic

Obviously your friend is racist

Well of course. How could she not be with radical views like those .

[PETA]

Originally Posted by jaesun

Well of course. How could she not be with radical views like those .

Well isn't it a given? Support fence therefore racist? I don't know how anyone could possibly ecape the charge

[molecule]

she literally has friends from college who are coyotes. so she understands fully why there would be such a need and how it is our god damned right to do so and dumb not to. when her and her friends sneak across into mexico, if they are seen by the mexican border military they receive one shot over their heads. if they do not turn back, the next shot will not be over their heads.

yea, she's cute.

[FarangBa]

Originally Posted by Dionysos

She earned her position, it wasn't handed to her. More-over, she's re-earned it multiple times via re-election. And regardless of how hard you think she works, it's still military protocol that an officer refer to someone by position:

General Jones
Sargent Right
Captain Bligh (when the captain of a ship regardless of rank)
Mr. President
Secretary Gates
Senator Boxer
etc.

I've verified this with multiple veterans from different branches(Navy, Marines, Army specifically). So yea, she's being a pain in the ass, but he also slipped on protocol. In the end, it's only as big as you and the Right want to make it. Realistically, more people care about Jon & Kate Plus 8 than this shit.

LOLZ about Jon & Kate --Travesty!


In all services, superior officers are referred to as Sir or Ma'am when responding to an inquiry or question. I.E. Male Colonel to Female General="Colonel, do you remember that statement?" "Yes Ma'am I remember that statement!"... "Yes Ma'am, I will make sure the men are fed"... "Yes ma'am, I will get right on that ma'am"

Very seldom is it proper or necessary to reply: "Yes General Mathis, I remember that statement!"

It's only a small thing because it's a democratic senator in question. I guess you will back her regardless what she does. Reminds me of how so many didn't think that having extra-marital affairs in the oval office was "any big deal in the grand scheme of things", Neither was lying under oath, etc.

The reason it is a big deal: Her obvious and public disregard/disrespect for the military projects an image that is spread throughout the world. It especially affects young twisted kids (who already have no respect for the people who provide the freedom that they abuse daily)

[FarangBa]

Originally Posted by Nyteshade

Is that Redus I see in that pic?

Redus? Not sure what you were asking. No one from Mississippi with me on that trip.

The background is the Temple at the City of Ur. Birthplace of Abraham.