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FarangBa · 06-15-09, 11:12 AM

or do they?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/120857/Co...cal-Group.aspx

June 15, 2009

“Conservatives” Are Single-Largest Ideological Group

Percentage of “liberals” higher this decade than in early ’90s

by Lydia Saad

PRINCETON, NJ -- Thus far in 2009, 40% of Americans interviewed in national Gallup Poll surveys describe their political views as conservative, 35% as moderate, and 21% as liberal. This represents a slight increase for conservatism in the U.S. since 2008, returning it to a level last seen in 2004. The 21% calling themselves liberal is in line with findings throughout this decade, but is up from the 1990s.

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These annual figures are based on multiple national Gallup surveys conducted each year, in some cases encompassing more than 40,000 interviews. The 2009 data are based on 10 separate surveys conducted from January through May. Thus, the margins of error around each year's figures are quite small, and changes of only two percentage points are statistically significant.
To measure political ideology, Gallup asks Americans to say whether their political views are very conservative, conservative, moderate, liberal, or very liberal. As has been the case each year since 1992, very few Americans define themselves at the extremes of the political spectrum. Just 9% call themselves "very conservative" and 5% "very liberal." The vast majority of self-described liberals and conservatives identify with the unmodified form of their chosen label.

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Party-Based Ideology
There is an important distinction in the respective ideological compositions of the Republican and Democratic Parties. While a solid majority of Republicans are on the same page -- 73% call themselves conservative -- Democrats are more of a mixture. The major division among Democrats is between self-defined moderates (40%) and liberals (38%). However, an additional 22% of Democrats consider themselves conservative, much higher than the 3% of Republicans identifying as liberal.
True to their nonpartisan tendencies, close to half of political independents -- 45% -- describe their political views as "moderate." Among the rest, the balance of views is tilted more heavily to the right than to the left: 34% are conservative, while 20% are liberal.
Gallup trends show a slight increase since 2008 in the percentages of all three party groups calling themselves "conservative," which accounts for the three percentage-point increase among the public at large.

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Thus far in 2009, Gallup has found an average of 36% of Americans considering themselves Democratic, 28% Republican, and 37% independent. When independents are pressed to say which party they lean toward, 51% of Americans identify as Democrats, 39% as Republicans, and only 9% as pure independents.
Ideological tendencies by leaned party affiliation are very similar to those of straight partisan groups. However, it is worth noting the views of pure independents -- a group usually too small to analyze in individual surveys but potentially important in deciding elections. Exactly half of pure independents describe their views as moderate, 30% say they are conservative, and 17% liberal.

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As reported last week on Gallup.com, women are more likely than men to be Democratic in their political orientation. Along the same lines, women are more likely than men to be ideologically "moderate" and "liberal," and less likely to be "conservative."
Still, conservatism outweighs liberalism among both genders.

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The pattern is strikingly different on the basis of age, and this could have important political implications in the years ahead. Whereas middle-aged and older Americans lean conservative (vs. liberal) in their politics by at least 2 to 1, adults aged 18 to 29 are just as likely to say their political views are liberal (31%) as to say they are conservative (30%).

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Future Gallup analysis will look at the changes in the political ideology of different age cohorts over time, to see whether young adults in the past have started out more liberal than they wound up in their later years.
Bottom Line
Although the terms may mean different things to different people, Americans readily peg themselves, politically, into one of five categories along the conservative-to-liberal spectrum. At present, large minorities describe their views as either moderate or conservative -- with conservatives the larger group -- whereas only about one in five consider themselves liberal.
While these figures have shown little change over the past decade, the nation appears to be slightly more polarized than it was in the early 1990s. Compared with the 1992-1994 period, the percentage of moderates has declined from 42% to 35%, while the percentages of conservatives and liberals are up slightly -- from 38% to 40% for conservatives and a larger 17% to 21% movement for liberals.
Survey Methods
Results are based on aggregated Gallup Poll surveys of approximately 1,000 national adults, aged 18 and older, interviewed by telephone. Sample sizes for the annual compilations range from approximately 10,000 to approximately 40,000. For these results, one can say with 95% confidence that the maximum margin of sampling error is ±1 percentage point.
In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.

FarangBa · 06-15-09, 11:21 AM

So, why did the conservatives lose the election then? My opinion is that the candidates were not conservative enough to stir up the conservative base and it allowed the support to split.

The last 2yrs of the Bush Administration were absolutely horrible with regard to fiscal conservatism. Granted the house and senate were both controlled by liberals, but it was if the republicans were taking part in the shark frenzy when they should have been standing up to the insane spending bills. Then when McCain voted FOR the first bailout... I knew it was over for conservatives for the time being.

I think the RINO's are not in step with the majority of Americans.

FarangBa · 06-16-09, 09:59 PM

Guess the polls are only important when you agree with them??

Dionysos · 06-16-09, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FarangBa

Guess the polls are only important when you agree with them??

Keep trying to stir the pot.

FarangBa · 06-17-09, 12:15 AM

No need, no one's gonna wanna touch this one!

Truth hurts, Case closed!

Dionysos · 06-17-09, 10:56 PM

What about this 'hurts', exactly?

FarangBa · 06-18-09, 12:58 AM

all of the libs I know have, unfortunately, have allowed themselves to be fooled into thinking everyone else in the country believe the same things that they do...

and that people who believe in: family values, fiscal conservatism, religious freedom (not freedom "from" religion), as well as protecting our borders, language and culture...

...are somehow the minority in 2009...

PETA · 06-18-09, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FarangBa

all of the libs I know have, unfortunately, allowed themselves to be fooled into thinking everyone else in the country believe the same things that they do...

and that people who believe in: family values, fiscal conservatism, religious freedom (not freedom "from" religion), as well as protecting our borders, language and culture...

...are somehow the minority in 2009...

they're liberals... what do you expect?

I AM EL-NINO · 06-18-09, 01:32 PM

Ahahahahahahhahaha....stupid Liberals.
Enjoy it while you can. Your time is very limited in power.

tricky · 06-18-09, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I AM EL-NINO

Ahahahahahahhahaha....stupid Liberals.
Enjoy it while you can. Your time is very limited in power.

You are failing to cope with reality and see that the Republican party is shifting towards a regional-southern party. They had substantial losses in 2008, and 2010 is looking to be a banner year for them again.

Check it -- Republicans are now down to 40 senators, distributed in these states: AK: 1, AL: 2, AZ: 2, FL: 1, GA: 2, ID: 2, IN: 1, IA: 1, KS: 2, KY: 2, LA: 1, ME: 2, MS: 2, MO: 1, NE: 1, NH: 1, NV: 1, NC: 1, OH: 1, OK: 2, TN: 2, SC: 2, SD: 1, TX: 2, UT: 2, and WY: 2.

Republicans are present in 26 states, which doesn't sound so bad. But it means that almost half the country doesn't have any Republican Senators. Only 14 states lack a Democratic Senator.
Ohio, Missouri, New Hampshire, and North Carolina (and maybe even Florida if Crist doesn't jump in for the GOP), are all top candidates for sending two Democrats to the Senate after the 2010 elections. That would further shrink the GOP into its deep South and Mormon Corridor strongholds.
Of the GOP's remaining 40 senators, 17 of 24 come from the South (FL, NC, SC, AL, MS, GA, VA, TN, KY, LA, AR, TX). That's up from 15 after the 1998 election.
Of those remaining 40 senators, only 3 of 24 come from the Northeast (ME, VT, NY, MD, PA, CT, DE, MA, NH, RI, WV, NJ). That's down significantly from 9 after the 1998 election.
Of those remaining 40 senators, only 10 of 26 come from the West (NM, CA, OR, WA, AK, HI, MT, ID, UT, NV, AZ, WY, CO). That's down from 16 after the 1998 election.
Of those remaining 40 senators, only 10 of 26 come from the Midwest (IL, MN, MI, OH, WI, IA, MO, KS, IN, ND, SD, OK, NE). That's down from 14 after the 1998 election.

So check it -- there is only one region the GOP dominates, and it does so with a solid majority. That's the South, and there's a reason it remains the only region in the country to have a problem with our president and the Democratic majority:
http://images2.dailykos.com/images/u...South_4_23.gif

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/...revisited.html

The republicans lost in 2008 due to running on the same party platform that most of America has come to see doesn't work. They haven't changed anything since then...

DataBass · 06-18-09, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I AM EL-NINO

Ahahahahahahhahaha....stupid Liberals.
Enjoy it while you can. Your time is very limited in power.

I, for one, am enjoying the fuck out of it.

Your stupid loser party lost. Ha ha, you suck faggot.

jaesun · 06-18-09, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DataBass

I, for one, am enjoying the fuck out of it.

Your stupid loser party lost. Ha ha, you suck faggot.

.....dick

vinnie97 · 06-18-09, 06:14 PM

Would've been more effective if you called him a cunt.

On a related note:

Quote:

Posts: 61,554

Holy fuck.

Dionysos · 06-18-09, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FarangBa

all of the libs I know have, unfortunately, allowed themselves to be fooled into thinking everyone else in the country believe the same things that they do...

and that people who believe in: family values, fiscal conservatism, religious freedom (not freedom "from" religion), as well as protecting our borders, language and culture...

...are somehow the minority in 2009...

They're the 'minority' yet control every branch of the federal government and made massive strides in most state governments. I'm sure they'll sob themselves to sleep tonight.

vinnie97 · 06-19-09, 02:58 AM

^Which is why this country is sunk.

I really can't fathom why you'd have a problem with the protection of "borders, language and culture." Of course, not even the so-called frontline for conservatives (the Republican party) has shown much interest in doing that.

06-15-09, 11:12 AM	#1 (permalink)
FarangBa Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pappy Andrews Posts: 980	Conservatives just don't get it! or do they? http://www.gallup.com/poll/120857/Co...cal-Group.aspx June 15, 2009 “Conservatives” Are Single-Largest Ideological Group Percentage of “liberals” higher this decade than in early ’90s by Lydia Saad PRINCETON, NJ -- Thus far in 2009, 40% of Americans interviewed in national Gallup Poll surveys describe their political views as conservative, 35% as moderate, and 21% as liberal. This represents a slight increase for conservatism in the U.S. since 2008, returning it to a level last seen in 2004. The 21% calling themselves liberal is in line with findings throughout this decade, but is up from the 1990s. http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/...kpfyiqjhvw.gif These annual figures are based on multiple national Gallup surveys conducted each year, in some cases encompassing more than 40,000 interviews. The 2009 data are based on 10 separate surveys conducted from January through May. Thus, the margins of error around each year's figures are quite small, and changes of only two percentage points are statistically significant. To measure political ideology, Gallup asks Americans to say whether their political views are very conservative, conservative, moderate, liberal, or very liberal. As has been the case each year since 1992, very few Americans define themselves at the extremes of the political spectrum. Just 9% call themselves "very conservative" and 5% "very liberal." The vast majority of self-described liberals and conservatives identify with the unmodified form of their chosen label. http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/...sw-fcnba5q.gif Party-Based Ideology There is an important distinction in the respective ideological compositions of the Republican and Democratic Parties. While a solid majority of Republicans are on the same page -- 73% call themselves conservative -- Democrats are more of a mixture. The major division among Democrats is between self-defined moderates (40%) and liberals (38%). However, an additional 22% of Democrats consider themselves conservative, much higher than the 3% of Republicans identifying as liberal. True to their nonpartisan tendencies, close to half of political independents -- 45% -- describe their political views as "moderate." Among the rest, the balance of views is tilted more heavily to the right than to the left: 34% are conservative, while 20% are liberal. Gallup trends show a slight increase since 2008 in the percentages of all three party groups calling themselves "conservative," which accounts for the three percentage-point increase among the public at large. http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/...qckwo6qu2g.gif Thus far in 2009, Gallup has found an average of 36% of Americans considering themselves Democratic, 28% Republican, and 37% independent. When independents are pressed to say which party they lean toward, 51% of Americans identify as Democrats, 39% as Republicans, and only 9% as pure independents. Ideological tendencies by leaned party affiliation are very similar to those of straight partisan groups. However, it is worth noting the views of pure independents -- a group usually too small to analyze in individual surveys but potentially important in deciding elections. Exactly half of pure independents describe their views as moderate, 30% say they are conservative, and 17% liberal. http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/...twmte30mxa.gif As reported last week on Gallup.com, women are more likely than men to be Democratic in their political orientation. Along the same lines, women are more likely than men to be ideologically "moderate" and "liberal," and less likely to be "conservative." Still, conservatism outweighs liberalism among both genders. http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/...efyp2yx76g.gif The pattern is strikingly different on the basis of age, and this could have important political implications in the years ahead. Whereas middle-aged and older Americans lean conservative (vs. liberal) in their politics by at least 2 to 1, adults aged 18 to 29 are just as likely to say their political views are liberal (31%) as to say they are conservative (30%). http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/...vzbhmpkbvq.gif Future Gallup analysis will look at the changes in the political ideology of different age cohorts over time, to see whether young adults in the past have started out more liberal than they wound up in their later years. Bottom Line Although the terms may mean different things to different people, Americans readily peg themselves, politically, into one of five categories along the conservative-to-liberal spectrum. At present, large minorities describe their views as either moderate or conservative -- with conservatives the larger group -- whereas only about one in five consider themselves liberal. While these figures have shown little change over the past decade, the nation appears to be slightly more polarized than it was in the early 1990s. Compared with the 1992-1994 period, the percentage of moderates has declined from 42% to 35%, while the percentages of conservatives and liberals are up slightly -- from 38% to 40% for conservatives and a larger 17% to 21% movement for liberals. Survey Methods Results are based on aggregated Gallup Poll surveys of approximately 1,000 national adults, aged 18 and older, interviewed by telephone. Sample sizes for the annual compilations range from approximately 10,000 to approximately 40,000. For these results, one can say with 95% confidence that the maximum margin of sampling error is ±1 percentage point. In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls. __________________ SUMMERDAZE 2009 MIXTAPE http://farangba.blogspot.com http://soundcloud.com/farangba

06-15-09, 11:21 AM	#2 (permalink)
FarangBa Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pappy Andrews Posts: 980	Re: Conservatives just don't get it! So, why did the conservatives lose the election then? My opinion is that the candidates were not conservative enough to stir up the conservative base and it allowed the support to split. The last 2yrs of the Bush Administration were absolutely horrible with regard to fiscal conservatism. Granted the house and senate were both controlled by liberals, but it was if the republicans were taking part in the shark frenzy when they should have been standing up to the insane spending bills. Then when McCain voted FOR the first bailout... I knew it was over for conservatives for the time being. I think the RINO's are not in step with the majority of Americans. __________________ SUMMERDAZE 2009 MIXTAPE http://farangba.blogspot.com http://soundcloud.com/farangba

06-16-09, 09:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
FarangBa Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pappy Andrews Posts: 980	Re: Conservatives just don't get it! Guess the polls are only important when you agree with them?? __________________ SUMMERDAZE 2009 MIXTAPE http://farangba.blogspot.com http://soundcloud.com/farangba

06-17-09, 12:15 AM	#5 (permalink)
FarangBa Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pappy Andrews Posts: 980	Re: Conservatives just don't get it! No need, no one's gonna wanna touch this one! Truth hurts, Case closed! __________________ SUMMERDAZE 2009 MIXTAPE http://farangba.blogspot.com http://soundcloud.com/farangba

06-18-09, 12:58 AM	#7 (permalink)
FarangBa Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pappy Andrews Posts: 980	Re: Conservatives just don't get it! all of the libs I know have, unfortunately, have allowed themselves to be fooled into thinking everyone else in the country believe the same things that they do... and that people who believe in: family values, fiscal conservatism, religious freedom (not freedom "from" religion), as well as protecting our borders, language and culture... ...are somehow the minority in 2009... __________________ SUMMERDAZE 2009 MIXTAPE http://farangba.blogspot.com http://soundcloud.com/farangba Last edited by FarangBa; 06-19-09 at 10:17 PM.

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06-18-09, 01:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
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06-19-09, 02:58 AM	#15 (permalink)
vinnie97 Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,011	Re: Conservatives just don't get it! ^Which is why this country is sunk. I really can't fathom why you'd have a problem with the protection of "borders, language and culture." Of course, not even the so-called frontline for conservatives (the Republican party) has shown much interest in doing that.

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