Health Bill Might Direct Tax Money to Abortion

[matt]

i make my ho's get the abortions thank you very much

[vinnie97]

I knew it...you c0ck-knocker!

[DataBass]

Originally Posted by vinnie97

No shit but you cannot tell me with a straight face that rampant sex on TV and in movies does not have an effect, especially on those who are not of legal age. Yea, some blame can go to the parents also.

This man speaks the truth. When I was a teenager I didn't want to fuck until I started watching cable.

[Deff Gordon]

Originally Posted by tricky

Don't forgot the check cashing store and the gun store

those will spring up on their own... i like to think of it as trickle down economics.

[HomoSexualPredator]

Originally Posted by vinnie97

No shit but you cannot tell me with a straight face that rampant sex on TV and in movies does not have an effect, especially on those who are not of legal age. Yea, some blame can go to the parents also.

And I don't disagree that baby mommas should get their tubes tied...or that sugar daddies should get the snip, starting with this idiot, and all of his hoes: http://www.volunteertv.com/home/headlines/45871127.html

was there not rampant sex on tv before the past 8 years? I think so... I don't really know, I don't watch that much TV. I didn't have cable growing up, but I was still a freak, so......

I think it's key that so many kids don't get the education on how to protect and prevent...

[Ash]

Originally Posted by DataBass

This man speaks the truth. When I was a teenager I didn't want to fuck until I started watching cable.

true, teenagers didn't start fucking until at least the 1970's.

[Deff Gordon]

Originally Posted by matt

i make my ho's get the abortions thank you very much

yo... you need to keep a steady supply of morning after pills. i tell my bitches they are vitamins

[tricky]

Originally Posted by Deff Gordon

yo... you need to keep a steady supply of morning after pills. i tell my bitches they are vitamins

/takes notes

[zerojunkie]

Originally Posted by vinnie97

No shit but you cannot tell me with a straight face that rampant sex on TV and in movies does not have an effect, especially on those who are not of legal age.

lol, wut? You really think there wasn't rampant sexual activity amongst teenagers before the 20th century?!?

[PETA]

Originally Posted by Ash

true, teenagers didn't start fucking until at least the 1970's.

well... chronologically track teenage pregnancy as a rate of population...

peaked a while back (90s?) but readily available birth control, the pill, yielded higher rates of teenage sexuality and pregnancy rather than the opposite

Originally Posted by zerojunkie

lol, wut? You really think there wasn't rampant sexual activity amongst teenagers before the 20th century?!?

society was a much different place... a lot of those teenagers were married.

teenage pregnancy wasn't the issue it is today

[PETA]

Congress' budget watchdog warned Thursday that Democrats' health care bills would not lower skyrocketing costs and would drive up government spending, undermining one of President Obama's chief arguments for the overhaul.

Congressional Budget Office (CBO) Director Douglas Elmendorf said the plans already released by the House and Senate would keep costs rising at an unsustainable pace, fueling criticism from Republicans and some conservative Democrats that the overhaul will bankrupt the country.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-federal-cost/

somewhere else I believe I read that the CBO reported that the plan would yield very small improvements in the numbers of people insured because employers would drop coverage for millions of Americans when a cheaper gov't alternative was available... this cheaper alternative would then have the long term effect of making private health care an endangered species... net result = two tiered health care just like today only the lower teir would be much larger. Can't find reference but the argument makes sense

[zerojunkie]

Originally Posted by PETA

society was a much different place... a lot of those teenagers were married.

teenage pregnancy wasn't the issue it is today

Most of them were married because they got pregnant. Which meant the messing around was still just as commonplace as it is today.

[PETA]

Originally Posted by zerojunkie

Most of them were married because they got pregnant. Which meant the messing around was still just as commonplace as it is today.

lol - bullshit

the graph of the rate of unwed pregnancies and teenage pregnancy largely tracks the onset of the pill becoming available to non-married women and the introduction of sex education in public education. Mitigate the likelihood of an unwanted result coming from a rsiky behavior and you'll get more of that risky behavior. As an absurd example... prior to parachutes few people jumped out of airplanes... after their invention many more did. It follows that a HS girl is more likely to fuck if they're on the pill than if they are not.

your typical 16 year old in 1860 didn't have the time to hang out with bad boys after school at the malt shop and then go fuck in the back of the Chevy.... they were milking cows and churning butter. Further, it was socially unacceptable to give birth out of wedlock then and it scared the shit out of women. Case in point, my great aunt was a maid for a judge... he knocked her up in 1920. She had to flee town because the previopus year a young girl in the same boat was killed by the married man the got her pregnant. My great great grandfather kicked my aunt's ass out of the house... in WI... in the winter. She lived in a one room shack w/her oldest brother until she gave birth and it took years before she was permitted back into the house.

Just because it is amusing.... that great grand-father was conceived out of wedlock as well. His father had knocked up the family maid in Pennsylvania... and his father kicked him out of the house and sent him packing to WI.

The fathers' reaction was typical for the era and that fiercely negative social reaction went a VERY long way toward preventing the behavior you're calling common. It happened of course but it was in no meaningful way comparable to young people today.

[J. Fees]

does seem like sex is a more graphic depiction than it has ever been. Watching 'watchmen' last nite made me think that. The love scenes were graphic, and not really even needed in the context that they were. But then again, i would say 80s movies had an all time high level of violence depicted.

[zerojunkie]

Originally Posted by PETA

lol - bullshit

the graph of the rate of unwed pregnancies and teenage pregnancy largely tracks the onset of the pill becoming available to non-married women and the introduction of sex education in public education. Mitigate the likelihood of an unwanted result coming from a rsiky behavior and you'll get more of that risky behavior. As an absurd example... prior to parachutes few people jumped out of airplanes... after their invention many more did. It follows that a HS girl is more likely to fuck if they're on the pill than if they are not.

your typical 16 year old in 1860 didn't have the time to hang out with bad boys after school at the malt shop and then go fuck in the back of the Chevy.... they were milking cows and churning butter. Further, it was socially unacceptable to give birth out of wedlock then and it scared the shit out of women. Case in point, my great aunt was a maid for a judge... he knocked her up in 1920. She had to flee town because the previopus year a young girl in the same boat was killed by the married man the got her pregnant. My great great grandfather kicked my aunt's ass out of the house... in WI... in the winter. She lived in a one room shack w/her oldest brother until she gave birth and it took years before she was permitted back into the house.

Just because it is amusing.... that great grand-father was conceived out of wedlock as well. His father had knocked up the family maid in Pennsylvania... and his father kicked him out of the house and sent him packing to WI.

The fathers' reaction was typical for the era and that fiercely negative social reaction went a VERY long way toward preventing the behavior you're calling common. It happened of course but it was in no meaningful way comparable to young people today.

No, two to three fifths of all firstborns were conceived out of wedlock in western Europe and the US in the 19th century. Just like your sordid family stories point out. It was still happening despite the consequences.

I'll concede that most of the premarital sex was had with the person they were going to marry anyways. Which is obviously different than it is today. I'm just saying that seeing it on TV doesn't make a girl or guy who would otherwise be abstinent perk up and go bang a hooker. Like you said, the pill and in turn the sexual revolution had a lot more to do with where we're at now than sex on tv.