Universal Health Care vs Michael Moore

[lonestardjz!]

Just curious of how many non truths from his "Sicko" Video has any one found?
I watched this, and thought it had a lot of good points. How ever has any one fact checked his videos for just straight up fabrications.
I think that, It would make a world of difference for most people here in the USA. I feel there would still be private doctors, and paid health care.

Most people feel its socialism, that I spoke too. How ever, I cant see the big ugly dangers of having it? We have public transportation, and public schools.
Most people think, ever one will die waiting, to see a doctor, for serious issues.

I cant see how people wont, wait any longer with health insurance now days to see a specialist doctor.
Also, the Government telling people, No, for a operation. How ever, what would be any difference in, a health care provider telling you No~, that you pay for?
The state, runs the medical boards, and doctors make up most health care systems. So what would be the huge difference. Besides taking the huge profits down , and making people lives better, over all.

People get F_N mad when, I tried talking about this. My own, thoughts, most people cant afford health care, and end up with unpaid doctor bills on there credit. Some times upwards of ten to twenty grand or more.
So much, money in debt, that any one else would require, credit approval before they did any business with any one in those amounts.

I just think, it would the single biggest society changing event, in our history.


Any one else got any thoughts, I do not feel there is a wrong or right answer!

[PETA]

Originally Posted by lonestardjz!

Also, the Government telling people, No, for a operation. How ever, what would be any difference in, a health care provider telling you No~, that you pay for?

you can sue an insurance company for starters

Originally Posted by lonestardjz!

The state, runs the medical boards, and doctors make up most health care systems. So what would be the huge difference. Besides taking the huge profits down , and making people lives better, over all.

The AMA is a private organization.

Profits are the incentive necessary for people to work as hard as most doctors work. Remove that and expect fewer docs to work as hard and expect fewer to go through the arduous process of getting into medschool (to say nothing of completing it) and taking on $250,000+ in student loan debt.

Removing profit motive... that is socialist.

Originally Posted by lonestardjz!

People get F_N mad when, I tried talking about this. My own, thoughts, most people cant afford health care

That's factually untrue. 45-50M American are without health insurance.. roughly 15-18%. Excluding those who have but cannot afford and those who can afford but do not own...By most etimations that is not most.

Originally Posted by lonestardjz!

I just think, it would the single biggest society changing event, in our history.

You don't think independence from George III, end of slavery/civil war, defeating Japan and the NAZIs and bringing the USSR to its knees were more important than providing something hitherto unprovided while we still accomplished those previously listed achievements?

[lonestardjz!]

well, the " they could afford but do not own" is iffy. Most people have ,what they can afford most grown men have what, they want.

[PETA]

Originally Posted by lonestardjz!

well, the " they could afford but do not own" is iffy. .

No, it isn't. It is a significant portion of the 15-18%. That group tends to be stratified into two camps... 1) have the money but have great health and no family and 2) have the money (in spades) and choose to pay out of pocket. For some, healthy ones, it's cheaper than insurance due to the small number of relatively insignificant claims.

[jaesun]

Originally Posted by PETA

The AMA is a private organization.

Profits are the incentive necessary for people to work as hard as most doctors work. Remove that and expect fewer docs to work as hard and expect fewer to go through the arduous process of getting into medschool (to say nothing of completing it) and taking on $250,000+ in student loan debt.

Removing profit motive... that is socialist.

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Originally Posted by Adrian Rogers, 1931

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

[lonestardjz!]

Real Time With Bill Maher - Dana Gould reports on health care protests and

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[lonestardjz!]

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