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Old 08-17-09, 05:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Swimmers are told to wear burkinis

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British swimming pools are imposing Muslim dress codes in a move described as divisive by Labour MPs.

By Patrick Sawer
Published: 9:00PM BST 15 Aug 2009

UK councils running restricted swimming session for Muslims
Under the rules, swimmers – including non-Muslims – are barred from entering the pool in normal swimming attire.

Instead they are told that they must comply with the "modest" code of dress required by Islamic custom, with women covered from the neck to the ankles and men, who swim separately, covered from the navel to the knees.


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French ban Muslim woman from wearing 'burkini' The phenomenon runs counter to developments in France, where last week a woman was evicted from a public pool for wearing a burkini – the headscarf, tunic and trouser outfit which allows Muslim women to preserve their modesty in the water.

The 35-year-old, named only as Carole, is threatening legal action after she was told by pool officials in Emerainville, east of Paris, that she could not wear the outfit on hygiene grounds.

But across the UK municipal pools are holding swimming sessions specifically aimed at Muslims, in some case imposing strict dress codes.

Croydon council in south London runs separate one-and-a half-hour swimming sessions for Muslim men and women every Saturday and Sunday at Thornton Heath Leisure Centre.

Swimmers were told last week on the centre's website that "during special Muslim sessions male costumes must cover the body from the navel to the knee and females must be covered from the neck to the ankles and wrists".

There are similar rules at Scunthorpe Leisure Centre, in North Lincolnshire, where "users must follow the required dress code for this session (T-shirts and shorts/leggings that cover below the knee)".

In Glasgow, a men-only swimming session is organised by a local mosque group at North Woodside Leisure Centre, at which swimmers must be covered from navel to knee.

At a women-only class organised by a Muslim teacher at Blackbird Leys Swimming Pool, Oxford, to encourage Muslim women to learn to swim, most participants wear "modest" outfits although normal costumes are permitted.

The dress codes have provoked an angry reaction among critics who say they encourage division and resentment between Muslims and non-Muslims, putting strain on social cohesion.

Ian Cawsey, the Labour MP for the North Lincolnshire constituency of Brigg and Goole, said: "Of course swimming pools have basic codes of dress but it should not go beyond that.

"I don't think that in a local authority pool I should have to wear a particular type of clothes for the benefit of someone else. That's not integration or cohesion."

Labour MP Anne Cryer, whose Keighley, West Yorkshire constituency has a large number of Muslims, said: "Unfortunately this kind of thing has a negative impact on community relations.

"It's seen as yet another demand for special treatment. I can't see why special clothing is needed for what is a single-sex session."

Muslim swimming sessions are also held at a number of state schools around the country. At Loxford School in Ilford, east London, a local Muslim group organises weekly sessions for Muslim men, with the warning that "it is compulsory for the body to be covered between the navel and the knees.

"Anyone not adhering to the dress code or rules within the pool will not be allowed to swim".

The practice of holding special Muslim swimming sessions has led to non-Muslims being turned away.

David Toube, 39 and his five year old son Harry were last year refused entry to Clissold Leisure Centre, in Hackney, east London, after being told the Sunday morning swimming session was for Muslim men only.

Council officials later said staff had made a mistake and both Mr Toube, a corporate lawyer, and his son should have been admitted.

After discovering the rules at Thornton Heath one Croydon resident, 34-year-old Alex Craig, said: "I think it is preposterous that a council should be encouraging this type of segregation over municipal facilities.

"Surely if Muslims want to swim then they should just turn up with their modest swimwear at the same time as everyone else."

Douglas Murray, director of the Centre for Social Cohesion, last night condemned the practice. He said: "This kind of thing is extremely divisive.

"Non-Muslims see these extremist demands as an example of Muslims wanting things to fit into their lifestyle, when there aren't similar things organised for Hindus, Buddhists or Jews.

"It also puts moderate Muslims in an awkward position as it suggests, wrongly, that they are not devout enough, simply because they choose not to cover themselves in a shroud in a pool."

A press officer at Croydon council, which introduced Muslim-only swimming in 2006, claimed that the wording on the website was a mistake and the dress code should be regarded as a suggestion rather than a requirement.

The website was late changed to remove the reference to the dress code.

However, an official at the leisure centre said the dress code remained compulsory.

Earlier, defending the segregation policy, a Croydon council spokesman said: "We appreciate that certain religious groups, such as Muslims, have strict rules on segregation for activities including sports, so in response to requests from the local community, we have been running these sessions at Thornton Heath Leisure Centre."
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Old 08-17-09, 05:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I for one am outraged.
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It's about time someone took steps to raise the bar on decency.
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Old 08-17-09, 06:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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why do you hate Muslims so much?
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because a sexual pervert wrote tha Quran lying to future followers saying they get 72 virgins in which brain washes the now horney as fuck men into blowing themselves up in tha middle of street or buildings killing innocent people. very selfish religion and look out them...they been damned to tha freakin desert of all places! They want their women covered but they want 72 virgins...wtf?
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I think they should have a mandatory floaties rule too...
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as long as they're imposing their will on weak willed europeans then so be it.. don't bring that bullshit to my pool.
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as long as they're imposing their will on weak willed europeans then so be it.. don't bring that bullshit to my pool.
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which pools all pools that is a complete farce. I am sure some pools somewhere are doing this but it is very unclear and I am not falling for that billshit.
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A town in northern Italy has banned women from wearing the "burqini" favored by conservative Muslim women, Al Arabiya reports.
The anti-immigration mayor barred the burqini and said women wearing them to pools or the beach would be subjected to $700 (Eur500) fines.
Gianluca Buonanno, mayor of Varallo Sesia said, "The sight of a 'masked woman' could disturb small children, not to mention problems of hygiene."
AKI reports that a young Muslim girl stopped going to a public pool in Verona after she was asked to provide details on the material of her burqini by the pool's director, Christian Panzarini.
Panzarini told AKI that some of their swimming instructors wear full body suits, but he was concerned about the hygiene of a burqini.
Monica Ferrari, an Italian triathlete who trains at the pool, said that she didn't think the burqini-clad girl had frightened any children, AKI reports.
Al Arabiya reports that Buonanno is a member of Italy's Northern League, which has been allied with Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's party.
Last week, a pool in Paris refused entry to a woman wearing a burqini.
Staff said there was a rule forbidding people from swimming while clothed.
In June, AP reported French President Nicholas Sarkozy saying that burqas were "not welcome" in France.

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The British are too polite.
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you really wanna see all that unshaved hair? maybe the brits are smarter and less polite than you think.
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