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Old 08-18-09, 09:03 PM   #46 (permalink)
 
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Re: forth worthless and dumbass dallas

Ha ha. The comments at the end of this small article are pretty funny...

http://www.engadget.com/2005/06/09/s...-chalk-boards/
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Old 08-18-09, 09:05 PM   #47 (permalink)
 
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they should go on an unprecedented spending spree to shore up their local economies... oh, wait, that's what the chalkboards were about... stimulating the economy. You guys are fools... shit man... don'tcha get it?
i think you're joking but anyway, it's not the schools job to stimulate the economy

the real problem is that whoever is in charge of buying new tech for the ISD's decided to buy digital chalk boards instead of something that could actually be useful
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Old 08-18-09, 09:23 PM   #48 (permalink)
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for $27M a shit ton of kids could have been sent to private schools where they'd actually learn something.
funny. i was just mentioning this to ash today.
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Old 08-18-09, 09:24 PM   #49 (permalink)
 
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Wait...so you're what? 30 something and you have the communication skills of a 5 yr old?

Fuck digital chalk boards. Lets empty out fort knox and send them everything NOW.
Um, we can't do that anymore. President Obama seems to have sent the gold in Ft. Knox to one of those "mail in your gold for cash" places.

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I graduated 95' and did the same.


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Teacher's dont do all that bad. FWISD start around 40,00 or so. I believe a bit more now. That is not too bad of money if you are fortunate enough not to have incurred too much of a debt receiving your education.

Sure a raise would be nice, but what would that really accomplish? Some might argue more money=better teacers. But i tend to disagree.
Bad salary? It's a pretty good salary when you run the numbers on how much teachers would earn if they worked a full lenght work year, instead of a teacher work year (all that great built in vacation!).

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188 work days * 8 hours a day = 1,504 work hours

http://www.fwisd.org/Documents/09-10_trad_end.pdf

Normal Full time workers (assuming 2 weeks off )

250 work days * 8 hours a day = 2,000 work hours

A note here, assume a standard 8 hour day, which many folks work more than, and no additional unpaid leave. Also assume a brand new teacher making $45k / year, http://www.teachfortworth.org/Docume..._2008_2009.pdf

1,504 Teacher hours is about 75% of a "normal" persons 2,000 working hours, which means when you take that 45,600 and add in what a normal person working an additional 500 hours would make, you end up making 60k a year. That is not bad, teachers get 25% of the year off, of course your not going to be making 60k a year, but making 45k with 1/4 of the year on vacation isn't too shabby.
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Old 08-19-09, 02:02 AM   #52 (permalink)
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teachers put in a lot of work that you aren't accounting for. its not like everything is done for them all summer long and they never ever work after 3:30pm. also they are teaching our fucking future on how to be people I think that is a very important job.

also why do kids learn so much more in private schools than public??? the pay better, smaller classrooms more detailed instruction???
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No, as soon as the last class ends at 3:20pm the teacher is completely done for the day. They don't have lesson plans to go over, or papers to grade, or anything like that. They just go out and rave it up because they got the life.
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lol

well, they didn't this time. the citizens are paying for something that can be rendered junk in a couple of years.
Why not, they saved cash by duping Dallas into paying for their roads.

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i just think it's stupid.

i'm glad you're not handling my money.
You should be so lucky, I would take the Fort Worth approach and have idiots pay for your shit.
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No, as soon as the last class ends at 3:20pm the teacher is completely done for the day. They don't have lesson plans to go over, or papers to grade, or anything like that. They just go out and rave it up because they got the life.
I totally understand there is work to do outside of the school, most professionals, non-hourly wage earners, I know work many more then 40 hours a week, so I call it a wash.

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also why do kids learn so much more in private schools than public??? the pay better, smaller classrooms more detailed instruction???
Smaller classrooms in private schools, I will give you, however, most private school teachers earn less then public school teachers. Why do the kids learn more? Their parents, in general, are more involved in the educations process.

Instead of letting them learn in whatever school they were assigned to by virtue of where they choose to live, they choose to pick the proper school for their kid and send them there. Often times it's a bit further then the elementary or middle school a mile or two away. When you start shelling out $1,000's a year extra for your kid to go to private school, you are much more likely to be involved and make sure you kiddo is doing all their home work and making progress. There are always exceptions, but that is the generalization.
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Why not, they saved cash by duping Dallas into paying for their roads.



You should be so lucky, I would take the Fort Worth approach and have idiots pay for your shit.
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the real problem is that whoever is in charge of buying new tech for the ISD's decided to buy digital chalk boards instead of something that could actually be useful
digital chalkboards are useful... that's not the problem. The problem is utility at a price point. A wrech is useful. A $1000 wrench is too. It's just not worth $1000.

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also why do kids learn so much more in private schools than public??? the pay better, smaller classrooms more detailed instruction???
Private school teachers aren't necesarily paid more. Class sizes aren't necessarily smaller. However, students in those schools tend to come from families with a much stronger focus on educating their children - contra - parents who are grateful that public school exists so their kids have some place to go during the day. Parents of children not willing to work hard on their studies are more likely to send them to public school to avoid extra costs.
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