Roman Polanski Finally Arrested

[Deff Gordon]

Originally Posted by DataBass

How in 100 years has this country gone from:

"It's okay to marry and fuck 13 year olds" to

"Fucking a 13 year old is the most disgusting thing you can do and should be locked up forever"

I am not saying it's not disgusting....because it is. I am just trying to figure out why I think it is.

raping and pillaging used to be okay too.

[DataBass]

Originally Posted by Deff Gordon

raping and pillaging used to be okay too.

It was more frequent, but I don't think that it was ever acceptable.... Like cavemen and vikings would just sit back and chill while there shit was being stolen and women raped. lol.

[Deff Gordon]

Originally Posted by DataBass

It was more frequent, but I don't think that it was ever acceptable.... Like cavemen and vikings would just sit back and chill while there shit was being stolen and women raped. lol.

like americans should sit back and chill when their 13 year old women are being raped by polish/french film directors?

[DataBass]

That's changing the subject of my post, my questions were more about who/when/how social change occurred with regards to marriageable age in the US.

[Deff Gordon]

Originally Posted by DataBass

That's changing the subject of my post, my questions were more about who/when/how social change occurred with regards to marriageable age in the US.

not changing anything. using your logic to show social norms change.

[djdfw]

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Entertai..._090929_mn.jpg

It seems from this article that WOODY ALLEN is requesting Polanski be released from jail.

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/...8705958&page=2

According to Geimer's testimony, Polanski first met Geimer at her home on Feb. 13, 1977. Geimer said the director asked her mother if he could photograph her for French Vogue. She said her mother agreed to a private photo shoot, which Geimer told ABC's "Good Morning America" in 2003 that she believed would help further her acting career.
The director returned nearly a week later to take Geimer for the photo shoot about a block from her home. Geimer said that at the top of a hill, Polanski asked her to change shirts, which she did in front of him.
Then, she said, he asked her to pose topless, which she also did, though she said she felt uncomfortable.
Geimer testified that she did not tell her mother about the topless photographs because she had planned to tell Polanski, "I don't want to get any more pictures taken again."
However, when Polanski turned up at her home on March 10 for a second photo session, Geimer agreed to go with him. She had planned to ask him if she could bring along a friend, but said she felt he was rushing her to go.
Polanski took pictures of Geimer at someone else's residence before they drove to Jack Nicholson's home. There, events took a darker turn, as Geimer said Polanski loaded her with champagne, then asked her to pose topless again.
"We did photos with me drinking champagne," Geimer later told "GMA." "He was friendly and then right toward the end it got a little scary, and I realized, you know, he had some other intentions, and then I knew I was not where I should be. I just didn't quite know how to get myself out of there."
Geimer said the other intentions became clear after Polanski offered her part of a Quaalude, which she took, then asked her to get into a Jacuzzi without her underwear. He took pictures of her in the Jacuzzi naked, before taking off his clothes and joining her in the water, she said.
Geimer said she grew uncomfortable when he grabbed her around the waist and started to move her hips around. When she hopped out of the Jacuzzi and retreated to the bathroom, she said, Polanski followed her there and she told him she wanted to go home.
"Yeah, I'll take you home soon," he said, according to her testimony.
"No, I have to go home now," Geimer said she told him.
Geimer testified that Polanski persuaded her to go to the bedroom and lie down. Geimer went, she said, but she sat on the couch in the bedroom. She described Polanski sitting next to her and reaching over to kiss her. Geimer said she told him, "No, keep away" and "Come on, let's go home."
He ignored her, she testified, then "went down and he started performing cuddliness (sic)."
When the district attorney asked Geimer what "cuddliness" meant, she clarified, "he placed his mouth on my vagina."
"I was ready to cry," she said. "I was going, 'No. Come on. Stop it.'"
Instead, a few minutes later, Geimer said, Polanski began having intercourse with her, while asking her if she was on the pill and when her last period was.
She testified that he then asked, "Would you like me to go in through your back?" Then, he started performing anal sex on her.
At one point, Geimer said, there was a knock on the door. The Los Angeles Times reported that the woman was actress Anjelica Huston, Nicholson's girlfriend at the time, but Geimer testified that she did not know who the woman was who was in the house.
According to Geimer, the woman who knocked on the door said, "Roman, are you in there?"
Polanski went to the door and opened it a crack to speak to the woman. Meanwhile, Geimer testified, she put her underwear back on and started toward the door.
When asked why she didn't say anything to the woman, Geimer said, "I was still pretty much afraid of him (Polanski)." She added that he was her only way home.
Geimer testified that Polanski closed the door before she could reach it, took off her panties and began intercourse again. When he finally let up, she said, she went to the bathroom and put on her dress again.
On her way outside to the car to wait for Polanski, she said, she again saw the woman in the house, spoke with her, but didn't tell her what had just happened.
Geimer said she began to cry in the car, and Polanski got in about 10 minutes later and drove her home.
"All hell broke loose" when her mom found out, Geimer told "GMA."
"My sister overheard me telling my then-boyfriend what happened on the phone after I got home. So she went in and told my mom," Geimer said in 2003.
Polanski was arrested the next day. He claimed that the sex was consensual. Geimer says it was not and that she resisted.
Huston later described the teen as "sullen" in a probation report prepared at the time of Polanski's plea deal.
"She appeared to be one of those kind of little chicks between -- could be any age up to 25. She did not look like a 13-year-old scared little thing," Huston said.
Today, Hollywood is still rushing to Polanski's defense. Directors Martin Scorsese, David Lynch and Woody Allen are among dozens in the film industry who have agreed to sign a petition calling for the immediate release of Polanski. In a British newspaper, film producer Harvey Weinstein, who has already signed the petition, called Polanski's original plea deal a "miscarriage of justice."
"Whatever you think about the so-called crime, Polanski has served his time," Weinstein wrote.
Polanski took a deal and pleaded guilty to one count of unlawful sexual intercourse and served 42 days in a California jail where he was psychologically evaluated.
His Hollywood rep Jeff Berg told "GMA" Tuesday that Polanski fled to France in 1978 only after learning during a discussion with the district attorney outside a Los Angeles courtroom that the judge in his case was preparing to sentence him to more prison time and require his voluntary deportation.
Following the 2008 HBO documentary "Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired," which raised questions about the case, Berg said Polanski's rights were violated and the case was "plagued with prosecutorial and judicial misconduct."
In the film, Wells, the former assistant district attorney, acknowledged having improper conversations with the judge, Laurence J. Rittenband, and advising him on sentencing Polanski. When asked about it, he told ABCNews.com he exaggerated such claims for the film to make himself look more important to the case than he was.
Wells did say he was being truthful when he told the filmmaker that he handed the judge's clerk a copy of a foreign newspaper with a photograph of Polanski with two young girls. Wells said the judge responded, "That son of a bitch is going to state prison."
Polanski fled the country before Rittenband could sentence him and Rittenband later recused himself from the case. He died 15 years ago.

[DataBass]

Originally Posted by Deff Gordon

not changing anything. using your logic to show social norms change.

lol, you were only pointing out the obvious. I was asking the why/who/when in connection with the change.


btw, I realize we don't have slaves anymore either.

[Deff Gordon]

lol

you'll have to go way back in history to pinpoint when RAPE was made illegal and socially unacceptable

[Damnsammit]

What I find interesting is that women are maturing earlier now and we are raising the age of consent. Soon the 12 year olds are going to have double D's and a landing strip that men will have to wait 6 years to launch a strike against.

[Deff Gordon]

Originally Posted by Damnsammit

What I find interesting is that women are maturing earlier now and we are raising the age of consent. Soon the 12 year olds are going to have double D's and a landing strip that men will have to wait 6 years to launch a strike against.

they are linking a lot of that to things like food injected with tons of hormones. just because periods are happening earlier doesn't mean they are mature. in fact, emotional maturity has reversed. this board is a prime example of that.

[Damnsammit]

Originally Posted by Deff Gordon

they are linking a lot of that to things like food injected with tons of hormones. just because periods are happening earlier doesn't mean they are mature. in fact, emotional maturity has reversed. this board is a prime example of that.

When has any male seriously evaluated the emotional maturity of a hot chick before fucking her?

Usually we find out they are crazy/stupid/immature after the fact.

[Deff Gordon]

hahahaha

well... that would answer the question as to why we have an age of consent wouldn't it?

[DataBass]

Originally Posted by Deff Gordon

lol

you'll have to go way back in history to pinpoint when RAPE was made illegal and socially unacceptable

It was considered RAPE to marry a 13 or 14 year old girl back in the late 19th century early 20th?

Didn't know that.

[djdfw]

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...nskiplea1.html

The probation report shows that the young lady in question indicated she had sex before Mr. Polanski and the first person her mother called upon discovering what happened when she sent her daughter off alone with this guy, the first person she called was her accountant.

I'm thinking this girl had no chance.

[Deff Gordon]

Originally Posted by DataBass

It was considered RAPE to marry a 13 or 14 year old girl back in the late 19th century early 20th?

Didn't know that.

no... it's considered RAPE to force sex on somebody. that's what this thread is really about. if you want to know about social norms that have nothing to do with Roman and this thread... then go google your questions.

just because you want to imply that it used to be ok to fuck and marry 13 year olds has no bearing on the fact that he forcibly raped a female... who happened to be 13.