Dems losing ground.

[SmackPickles]

Originally Posted by J. Fees

who's job, the insane vets of america?

All these online pretend political experts...

[FarangBa]

Originally Posted by J. Fees

who's job, the insane vets of america?

Outstanding utilization of the frontal lobe of your doped up brain. I'm literally in awe of both your lack of conversation skills and your continuous inability to defend your positions especially when faced with crazy things like Facts and Logic.

[vinnie97]

I await the day that FarangBa's concerns bear out and he can proudly proclaim "I told you so." The crow-eating will be fierce.

Both of the 2 primary political parties need to be kicked out on their asses.

[Funkenstein]

Originally Posted by vinnie97

I await the day that FarangBa's concerns bear out and he can proudly proclaim "I told you so." The crow-eating will be fierce.

See. That's the thing. We're all still waiting for that to happen.

Originally Posted by vinnie97

Both of the 2 primary political parties need to be kicked out on their asses.

One of the things that the greater minds on here seem to agree on when it is all boiled down. Donkey and Elephant are failing to serve the needs of the people, but Green has no one worth a damn or that isn't too eccentric.

What are we left with?



If we could get a real Mr Smith Goes to Washington kind of feeling going on on MULTIPLE fronts, that would be fantastic. The reality of things says "No" (even with the president-elect at the moment). Lots of bureaucratic tape lies in between candid response to the public and the public's needs/wants.

[SmackPickles]

All this work, for an "i told you so"? Takes me back to elementary! YAY! *dance*

[BradH]

Originally Posted by vinnie97

I await the day that FarangBa's concerns bear out and he can proudly proclaim "I told you so." The crow-eating will be fierce.

Both of the 2 primary political parties need to be kicked out on their asses.

Well that will never happen.

But as for the first part... it happened for the Dems just one year ago.


And really, does anyone give a fuck who is the governor in those states? Not me.

[vinnie97]

Originally Posted by Funkenstein

See. That's the thing. We're all still waiting for that to happen.

Well, wasn't it you yourself who proclaimed the jury is still out on Obama 10 months into his Administration? Waiting for Marxism to take hold doesn't seem like something that would be in the interest of self-preservation or what made America great.

One of the things that the greater minds on here seem to agree on when it is all boiled down. Donkey and Elephant are failing to serve the needs of the people, but Green has no one worth a damn or that isn't too eccentric.

What are we left with?



If we could get a real Mr Smith Goes to Washington kind of feeling going on on MULTIPLE fronts, that would be fantastic. The reality of things says "No" (even with the president-elect at the moment). Lots of bureaucratic tape lies in between candid response to the public and the public's needs/wants.

I can't jive with green...they'll make us look more like Spain. Constitutional, Libertarian or Conservative parties for me but I sadly can't imagine them gaining any foothold either...not without something akin to a revolution. And if we continue on the current path, that seems all but inevitable.

Originally Posted by SmackPickles

All this work, for an "i told you so"? Takes me back to elementary! YAY! *dance*

No, but some are incapable of following the clues that are left directly in front of their face, or they conveniently brush them aside as insignificant or of no concern. Some folks are seemingly eager to be led to the slaughter. For those, it will be a rude awakening.

[Funkenstein]

Originally Posted by vinnie97

Well, wasn't it you yourself who proclaimed the jury is still out on Obama 10 months into his Administration? Waiting for Marxism to take hold doesn't seem like something that would be in the interest of self-preservation or what made America great.

Not gonna backtrack. Indeed I did and still do. Year one sets the precedent IMHO.

You are kidding about Marxism here, right? I'm just asking so that I don't run you off in a holy terror otherwise (kekekeke).

LOL @ the Green Party comment.

[vinnie97]

Yea, after seeing the White House visitor list today and the continued radicals that ingratiate themselves in the cabinet/inner circle/czar list, I am getting more concerned by the day. What is Jeremiah Wright, racist to the extreme (and Marxist admirer) and supposedly someone who Obama disavowed, doing at the White House? Hell, Black Party leader, Malik Zulu Shabazz, even visited the White House...and I don't see how welcoming in these kinds of characters, that use racism as a tool, for an afternoon tea is the kind of change any liberal white voted for...unless they really are that self-loathing to think they deserve it.

[Funkenstein]

Originally Posted by vinnie97

Yea, after seeing the White House visitor list today and the continued radicals that ingratiate themselves in the cabinet/inner circle/czar list, I am getting more concerned by the day. What is Jeremiah Wright, racist to the extreme (and Marxist admirer) and supposedly someone who Obama disavowed, doing at the White House?

Visiting. Just because you get "disavowed" doesn't mean you get blacklisted/banned forever (as this administration and a certain one tied with Oliver North before it has proven).



If I were in your shoes, I'd let that stuff alarm me as well. If it wasn't my party, I'd be kind of perturbed, too.

[FarangBa]

Originally Posted by Funkenstein

See. That's the thing. We're all still waiting for that to happen.

It's not 2010 yet.

Originally Posted by Funkenstein

If we could get a real Mr Smith Goes to Washington kind of feeling going on on MULTIPLE fronts, that would be fantastic. The reality of things says "No" (even with the president-elect at the moment). Lots of bureaucratic tape lies in between candid response to the public and the public's needs/wants.

There are only 2 ways to do it. Both the Repubs and Dems have to clean the shit out of their party, expelling every single Big Government Progressive, Statist Douchebag

-OR-

Kick Every Damn one of them out on their ass. Take your pick, they are all saying the exact same thing:

http://www.blowoutcongress.com/

http://www.the912project.com/

http://www.kickthemallout.com/

"That is not a just government, nor is property secure under it, where the property which a man has in his personal safety and personal liberty, is violated by arbitrary seizures of one class of citizens for the service of the rest. "
--- James Madison 29 March 1792

[FarangBa]

Originally Posted by vinnie97

Constitutional, Libertarian or Conservative parties for me but I sadly can't imagine them gaining any foothold either...not without something akin to a revolution. And if we continue on the current path, that seems all but inevitable.

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[vinnie97]

Originally Posted by BradH

And really, does anyone give a fuck who is the governor in those states? Not me.

The big O cared big time, going so far as to say his agenda relied upon the re-election of Corzine (which by extension must mean reliance upon corruption and big govt)...wasting our tax dollars to campaign there. And the Dems themselves funneled millions into Corzine's campaign.

Hey, Funk, I stealth-edited while you were responding (adding some further comments).

[Funkenstein]

Thanks for the heads up, Vinnie.



To Farangba: I know. I still reserve my right to pass judgment until the end of year one.

Originally Posted by vinnie97

I can't jive with green...they'll make us look more like Spain. Constitutional, Libertarian or Conservative parties for me but I sadly can't imagine them gaining any foothold either...not without something akin to a revolution. And if we continue on the current path, that seems all but inevitable.

Now this one is for you and Farangba:

According to what we are hearing from angles on both sides, the "war" is coming (referring to infighting amongst Americans). Is there no way for referendum to sort that out before we turn to an actual civil war?

Martial law would come into play WELL before things got to that level, but all it would take would be someone smart to step in, grab pundit A's ear from the Dems and pundit B from the Reps, get them on board to tear down the old standard, launch an internet campaign, then go hog wild with these next 3 years to set up for at least a candidate for the next election.

George Stephanopoulos did WONDERS with Bill Clinton in grooming and attacking the MTV generation, news buzz, and political spin. Get someone of his caliber to think about splitting old ties to form something with the Green fervor, the reserved thought of the Right, and the open to all class extolling hands of the Left and within 12 years you could actually have something to challenge the status quo.

The rise of the internet has brought TREMENDOUS stride in public awareness and THAT is the key weapon with which to inform and in this case, contain some of that public rage. That's why people like Olbermann and Stewart are so popular. People look to them as screaming out FOR them.

Why not actually get someone who can actually do something for you into power? I think THAT is what is missing here. You just have to have someone notable willing to cast their lot in with it first.

Radical, I know.

Plausible? Barely.

Would I back it? Absolutely.

[johnny861]

Originally Posted by Funkenstein

One of the things that the greater minds on here seem to agree on when it is all boiled down. Donkey and Elephant are failing to serve the needs of the people, but Green has no one worth a damn or that isn't too eccentric.

What are we left with?

Well, theres's always the Gay Green Nazi party.