Dems losing ground.

[david austin]

Surprised nobody has posted about a few key races last night.

[molecule]

conservatives fucked it up in NY 23 though.

[tricky]

Originally Posted by molecule

conservatives fucked it up in NY 23 though.

here here

Owens defeated Hoffman despite a voter registration edge of 45,000 for Republicans and big-name endorsements for Hoffman from former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, former Republican Sen. Fred Thompson and others.

surprise loss of a House seat in upstate New York that had been in GOP hands for more than a century

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/03/bill-owens-leads-doug-hof_n_344776.html




anyways, all this is mindless spin...

from jon stewart...

The 2009 elections that have been dominating cable news coverage of late consisted of two governor races and two congressional seats. Of course, every race is important and deserves coverage but the hyperbole which reporters, anchors and pundits have employed claiming these races are referendums on the president and his policies, and predictors of the 2008, 2010 and 2012 elections caused Jon Stewart to take exception.
He focused specifically on New York's 23rd District race in which Republican nominee Dede Scozzafava was undermined by her own party mostly because she supports gay marriage, abortion rights and has a close relationships with leading labor officials. Sarah Palin, Dick Armey, Michele Bachmann, Fred Thompson, Steve Forbes, and more decided to support third party candidate Doug Hoffman who is much more conservative. The media took this race and ran with it, asking over and over again if this race will define the GOP for years and years to come, prompting Stewart to ask, "Might the media, with really very few other elections to cover, be stuffing one hundred thousand pounds of their bullshit into District 23's five-pound bag?"
He went on to skewer CNN for its inane panels, and convene his own group of pundits to speculate about what he might ask them tomorrow.

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/1..._n_345103.html

[molecule]

yea the locals did not like Palin and clan swooping in trying to take over their election. it backfired on them.

[J. Fees]

i dont think losing the VA governors race is that big of a worry for Dems. HOw the hell did a dem get elected in the first place in VA?

[zymote]

Originally Posted by J. Fees

i dont think losing the VA governors race is that big of a worry for Dems. HOw the hell did a dem get elected in the first place in VA?

Because VA historically elects governors from the opposition party. I don't think anybody was too surprised by that race; I certainly wasn't.

[FarangBa]

ABC's Stephanopoulos Spins NY 23 as a
'Big Loss' for Sarah Palin, Hits GOP 'Civil War'

Republicans Win in Key States

A Republican sweep in Virginia and New Jersey on Tuesday shifted the political terrain against President Barack Obama only a year after his historic election.
In New Jersey, Republican former U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie ousted incumbent Democrat Jon S. Corzine with a surprisingly strong showing. Virginia voters elected Republican former Attorney General Bob McDonnell as their commonwealth's next governor, handing the state back to the GOP after eight years of Democratic rule.

Please, continue to talk about the 1 seat in NY and Sarah Palin. We love it. Don't pay any attention to anything else that's going. It makes our job easier. Woo Hoo.

[tricky]

Originally Posted by FarangBa

ABC's Stephanopoulos Spins NY 23 as a
'Big Loss' for Sarah Palin, Hits GOP 'Civil War'

Republicans Win in Key States

Please, continue to talk about the 1 seat in NY and Sarah Palin. We love it. Don't pay any attention to anything else that's going. It makes our job easier. Woo Hoo.

There were four races yesterday and this one should have gone Republican FOR SURE. IT DIDN'T. First time in 120 years.

No significance in that? Are you oblivious to reality.

[zymote]

Seriously - I understand that you guys are just trying to make lemonade (sweet, sweet lemonade), but c'mon. The attempts by the right to spin a few races into some sort of national referendum on Obama are really pathetic. Corzine sucked, so did whatshisface in VA. They lost on their own merits, not because of the president.

[johnny861]

Originally Posted by zymote

Seriously - I understand that you guys are just trying to make lemonade (sweet, sweet lemonade), but c'mon. The attempts by the right to spin a few races into some sort of national referendum on Obama are really pathetic. Corzine sucked, so did whatshisface in VA. They lost on their own merits, not because of the president.

ROFL!

Look at my race! My race is amazing!

[J. Fees]

It makes our job easier. Woo Hoo.

who's job, the insane vets of america?

[Funkenstein]

Originally Posted by J. Fees

who's job, the insane vets of america?

Trying to get Farangbanged, eh?

[matt]

RULE 1: "Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have."

The Tea Parties have given a hint to the government of who we are, and what we stand for. But we know we have something that they don’t, we have something that they don’t think or believe we have, and that is: resolve. We cannot afford to lose this battle because if we do, two or more generations after us will suffer dire consequences. We have no excuse to be idle and do nothing or do not enough. Can you imagine your children and your children’s children staring at you and pointing a finger at you saying “you could have done something about it and you didn’t”. Do we have what it takes to fight for us, for our children, for our country, for our Constitution? We must show and display that we are fighting a battle we cannot afford to lose. Or everything is lost. Here lies our strength and our motivation. Does the government know the power we have? I am not sure it does, otherwise, it would either listen to what w have to say or take drastic measures to counterbalance our numbers and powers.

On the other hand, do we know what power the government has? We have seen so far mainly executive and legislative power. But is it this all the government rely upon to balance our position or they have powers that we are still unaware of? Where do the military, law enforcement and intelligence agencies stand. These and other questions must be answered if we are to have a real and convincing idea who and what we stand against.

RULE 2: "Never go outside the expertise of your people."

Fortunately, ours is not a small organization or group. There are millions of Americans willing to engage in this battle for the return or our nation on the path laid out by our Forefathers. There is plenty of talent and expertise, plenty of knowledge and information. If we sum it all up, we have a superior advantage upon our adversaries. And because of all this, we can concentrate our efforts on many fronts at once with the advantage on our side. But we must make sure that talent, expertise and experience is properly and effectively motivated to join our ranks and become actively involved.

RULE 3: "Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy."

Our adversaries may be experts in their fields. But they are not experts in all fields. That is where we must concentrate our efforts: identify and exploit their weaknesses. And there are plenty of them. After all, they are humans too, and they can also feel insecure, anxious, uncertain, disoriented, confused. When we manage to bring them out in the field and play by our rules, we take them away from where they feel comfortable and secure and disrupt their wicked works. It will not be easy to engage the adversaries while they dwell in their comfortable and secure zone. And bringing them out will take ingenuity and smart tactics. But we have the means and talent to do it, and do it effectively.

RULE 4: "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."

The Constitution must and should always be the rule by which we must demand our adversaries to abide by. There is no room for interpretations and diversion from the clear articles and amendments. We must know the rules, we must know the Constitution by heart, we must be relentless in bringing up the rules and make them live and act accordingly. Refusal to do so will place them in an uncomfortable situation that will make them weaker and weaker. If we manage to make them aware that the rules are there for them to follow and obey, they have one of two options: obey them or be removed. There are constitutional means by which we the people can hold our representatives and senators accountable for not honoring the oath of office they took when they were sworn in. And, based on the relentless and irresonsible manner in which our Constitution has been manipulated and distorted, even ignored thus far, we must take clear and concise action to stop them from doing more damage to our Country that what they have already done. The Law is on our side and we must find the proper way to enforce it.

RULE 5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon."

Every person has his or her weaknesses. Whenever possible, bring them up in the open, expose them and make them feel embarrassed and guilty. They are hurting us at a personal level through all the policies and measures that takes away our constitutionally guaranteed freedoms. So, we must take things personally, and return the favor personally. There is no defense against being publicly ridiculed and embarrassed. It causes the most balanced person to lose control and say or make things that will go against him. An angry person acts impulsively and says and makes mistakes that will hurt him or his position or agenda. A fearful person acts irrationally and is easily pushed into a position of making concessions. Our adversary’s weakness is our strength.

RULE 6: "A good tactic is one your people enjoy."

The Tea Parties have been to a certain point very enjoyable. People of all races, creeds and ages have gathered together in a manner in which they enjoyed mutual company and enjoyed the goal of their actions. American people are very creative and can make any rally or demonstration an enjoyable while effective activity. And the memories will encourage them to come back for more. There is plenty of talent and expertise to bring into the movement new ways of doing things.

RULE 7: "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag."

We must do whatever in our power to continue the pressure and gain more and more momentum. And we must do it in a manner that will make us enjoy it. There are plenty of ideas and imagination to bring new and more exciting ways to motivate us to continue the fight and do it in a manner that will encourage us to go for more. RULE 8: "Keep the pressure on. Never let up." The April 15 Tea Parties have already become part of American history. But we cannot leave it to the history alone. We must continue to mobilize and keep the pressure on. We have gained momentum and must keep it going forward. There are other national rallies in the works, one on the 4th of July, and another in September. But in the meantime, we must organize smaller, more localized rallies and demonstrations, with focused and concentrated messages and demands. City Halls, Sheriffs Departments, Police Departments, Boards of Educations, are all valid places where we must gather in front of, and make a stand. I have suggested that every weekend from now on should be used for constant and continuous gatherings and rallies. Many people who have no idea what is going on will approach, and if we have a clear message, they will join and become new allies.

RULE 9: "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself."

Our adversaries know what our goal is. But they cannot ascertain our resolve in going after it. They believe that they have the power and the means to demoralize us and disband any rally or demonstration. They may, here and there, but they cannot be everywhere at the same time. So, we have the advantage of being a decentralized and well spread movement that can make it very difficult to control. One large gathering in one place can easily be disbanded. But hundreds or thousands of smaller activities are hard to impossible to subdue.

RULE 10: "If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive."

We must not fear repercussions. We must stand firm and not give up. Any attempts by the authorities to deprive us from our constitutional right to peacefully assemble, will gain sympathy to our cause and ad numbers to our flanks. We must be consistent and firm while peaceful and orderly. We must not fear infiltrations from our adversaries with the purpose to cause disorder and chaos, because if it happens, will bring more attention to our just cause. And that is something that our adversaries will try to avoid as much as possible.

[FarangBa]

Originally Posted by tricky

There were four races yesterday and this one should have gone Republican FOR SURE. IT DIDN'T. First time in 120 years.

No significance in that? Are you oblivious to reality.

Bwahahahaha... Your talking about a race where 100,000 people voted
vs 2 races where over 7million people voted. I'll take the word of 7million

+Plus - Your talking about 1 swing state that went for Obama last Nov. and another staunchly Democratic state.

But Keep the spin going.... and disregard what the majority of people are saying. Republican, Democrat or Independent... the majority of America is Conservative and they do NOT WANT a more Socialist Government BIGGER than the one we already have.

In a bad economy: increasing the size of government, raising taxes, and increasing the energy costs on every single American by at least 1/3... Is an IDIOTIC strategy that will piss the peeps off big time!

2010, will be an absolute upset.

Probably about time for another 'Contract With America' -- this time the 'contract' should say "WE WILL NOT TURN YOUR COUNTRY INTO A COMMUNIST/MARXIST or SOCIALIST/STATIST UTOPIA. THIS IS A CAPITALIST FREE MARKET SOCIETY AND WE INTEND TO KEEP IT THAT WAY."

Can you say a repeat of 1993?

[FarangBa]

Originally Posted by matt

RULE 1: "Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have."


RULE 10: "If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive."

OUTSTANDING! You've been paying attention.

You get a cookie!

and a dancing banana..

Progressives have been following Alinsky's bullshit 'RULES' for 40 years and look what it's given us. 'Actual' Communists, Socialists and Radicals personally advising the President of the United States.