Oil, the Middle East, and You

[Dionysos]

I know this borders on a chain letter, but I think the point behind it is valid.

> > Subject: Fw: Oil from the Middle East
> >
> >
> >
> > GASOLINE SOLUTION!
> >
> > We CAN buy gasoline that's not from Middle East.
> > Why didn't George W. think of this? Gas rationing in
> > the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it.
> > It might even be good for us!
> >
> > The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should
> > return the favor. An interesting thought is to
> > boycott their GAS. Every time you fill up the car,
> > you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of
> > Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't
> > import their oil from the Saudis.
> >
> > Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that
> > every time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my money
> > to people who are trying to kill me, my family, and
> > my friends.
> >
> > I thought it might be interesting for you to know
> > which oil companies are the best
> > to buy gas from and which major companies import
> > Middle Eastern oil
> >
> > Shell............................205,742,000 barrels
> > Chevron/Texaco.............144,332,000 barrels
> > Exxon /Mobil.................130,082,000 barrels
> > Marathon/Speedway......117,740,000 barrels
> > Amoco...........................62,231,000 barrels
> >
> > If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports
> > amount to over $18 BILLION!
> >
> > Here are some large companies that do not import
> > Middle Eastern oil:
> >
> > Citgo....................0 barrels
> > Sunoco............. ..0 barrels
> > Conoco............. ..0 barrels
> > Sinclair............... 0 barrels
> > BP/Phillips.......... 0 barrels
> > Hess...................0 barrels
> >
> > All of this information is available from the
> > Department of Energy and each is required to state
> > where they get their oil and how much they are
> > importing.They report on a monthly basis. Keep this
> > list in your car; share it with friends. Stop paying
> > for terrorism.............
> >
> > But to have an impact, we need to reach literally
> > millions of gas buyers. It's really simple to do!!
> > Now, don't wimp out at this point...keep reading and
> > I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of
> > people!!
> >
> > I'm sending this note to about thirty people. If
> > each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 =
> > 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten more
> > (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the
> > message reaches the sixth generation of people, we
> > will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If
> > those three million get excited and pass this on to
> > ten friends each, then 30 million people will have
> > been contacted! If it goes one level further, you
> > guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!
> > Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people.
> > How much would all that take? If each of us sends
> > this e-mail out to ten more people within one day
> > 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted
> > within the next eight days!

[Sir Meh]

To bad we have almost none of those gas stations that don't import that oil in our area. . At least i rarely see any of them.

[Dionysos]

Originally posted by Anti_Visual
To bad we have almost none of those gas stations that don't import that oil in our area. . At least i rarely see any of them.

Citgo = 7-11

Diamond Shamrock isn't under any of those companies(they merged with Valero), so I can't speak to where they get their oil.

btw I'm trying to verify these details but with the overabundance of info on the Dept. of Energy's site, it makes this difficult to parse. I'll let you know if I find anything that proves or disproves this.

[Yorek]

I read this a while back and while it may be some what true, I think there is a major flaw in its concept.


That flaw being that all the oil that companies produce and refine is mixed together at the refineries or at in the pipelines/oil tankers that they are brought to the US on. Quantities and qualities are recorded before hand and then returned to the companies at the end of the refining process. Not all companies do it this way I dont believe.... but most do.

So I'm not totally sure that buying just from those companies listed above is actually going to do any good since a lot of companies buy/trade oil with each other on a daily basis.

[Dionysos]

Granted, the boycott would be an inexact process. However, I think if it was done on a large enough scale I think the companies would catch on and attempt to head elsewhere for their oil. While OPEC accounts for 40% of the oil production in the world, there are several other options available. Everyone talks about our dependence on Saudi Arabian oil, but not a lot of people know that we import just about the same amount from Canada & Mexico(separately, not combined) as we do from Saudi Arabia(~1.5 million barrels a day). This isn't including Venezuela, whom we normally get about 1.5 million barrels/day from but have slowed their production due to political unrest. Actually, the Venezuela situation is as big an issue to the prices of oil as the impending war from an economic standpoint, but it isn't as stylish as the Iraq war so the news doesn't report on it much.

According to the reports I've been reading today, America supplies roughly half it's crude oil needs internally(9.5-10 out of ~19 million barrels/day). That leaves ~50% of our supply needs to be imported, about 30-35% of which comes from Canada & Mexico. The Arab OPEC accounts for 25% of our imports(~2.5 MB/day), and Iraq is only 12% of that(~360KB/day). To put it in perspective, we get more oil from the UK than we do from Iraq. If we're cut off from Iraqi oil, we can easily make up that difference elsewhere. In fact if we were cut off from the entire Arab OPEC(Saudi Arabia notwithstanding) we'd likely see less than a nickel/gallon difference in our gas prices. In other words, as long as we have Saudi Arabia pumping our tankers full we're fine.

Anyway, I got off on a tangent. I get that way when I get to sort through a bunch of numbers. If I can find a list of who imported what and from whom, I'll throw it up here to let everyone know.

p.s. If anyone wants to know where I got my figures, it's from various pdf docs on the Dept. of Energy's site: http://www.energy.gov/

[Cock Puncher]

what about race trac????

[Cock Puncher]

unfortunitly half of these are not around here, I haven't seen a BP since I drove to MI

Citgo....................0 barrels
Sunoco............. ..0 barrels
Conoco............. ..0 barrels
Sinclair............... 0 barrels
BP/Phillips.......... 0 barrels
Hess...................0 barrels

[Cock Puncher]

Originally posted by WarLord
BP also owns Amoco now....although I don't think they are down here either.

I think I've seen a couple down here, I might be mistaken but I believe there is one in garland or wylie, because they sell the double deepfryed buritos my friend calls gut gernaids

[wes lee]

Originally posted by damn-it-2-hell
I think I've seen a couple down here, I might be mistaken but I believe there is one in garland or wylie, because they sell the double deepfryed buritos my friend calls gut gernaids

They've got the round green sign right??

I'm pretty sure there is a BP at 183 & Bedford rd in Bedford. Used to be a Mobil station.

I'd definatly be interested in any "facts" about this you come up with Rosebud!

-Wes

[Cock Puncher]

Originally posted by techsun-wes
They've got the round green sign right??

I'm pretty sure there is a BP at 183 & Bedford rd in Bedford. Used to be a Mobil station.

I'd definatly be interested in any "facts" about this you come up with Rosebud!

-Wes

I was talking about Amoco.......but yes BP are green, kind look like a shield and the BP are usually in white or yellow letters

[Ash]

BP next door to my work here on Alma in Plano.