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[hepkatmama]

jarrod is right, someone ought to put a bounty on sadaam's head.

i feel like if the U.S. is going to break international law to attack Iraq...

they might as well break the international law against assasinating the heads of foreign states.

i'd rather we kill one despot instead of thousands of innocents born in the wrong country.

Originally posted by WarLord
There is no international prohibition against it.

After Watergate and the revelations about what the CIA had been up the previous 30 odd years, an executive order was put into effect by Pres. Ford forbidding the assasination of foreign heads of state.

Supposedly, it is still in force. Whether it has always been honored by every president in every situation that has occurred over the last 25 years is debatable.

Yup, President Ford signed an executive order in 1976... as you can imagine, Bush and his Cabinet are reviewing the assassination law...

According to the New Zealanders

[hepkatmama]

they are just more covert about it now, i suppose.

suicides & heart attacks, right????

anyways...

thanx lordy i didn't realize it was an executive thing. i was wrong.

well then, a cowboy like bush ought to have no problem bucking that one.

send in the ninjas dammit.

Originally posted by scobib
Yup, President Ford signed an executive order in 1976... as you can imagine, Bush and his Cabinet are reviewing the assassination law...

According to the New Zealanders

Here's another link... I didn't realize that Ronnie Reagan added his own bent on the executive order, too...

Pitt Law discussion

Originally posted by hepkatmama
they are just more covert about it now, i suppose.

suicides & heart attacks, right????

anyways...

thanx lordy i didn't realize it was an executive thing. i was wrong.

well then, a cowboy like bush ought to have no problem bucking that one.

send in the ninjas dammit.

you know, that's what the argument is now about - what's assassination, and what's murder? How are the different, legally?

heh...

[hepkatmama]

"Under customary international law assassination has long been recognized as an illegal act. In the United States, the origin of the presidential ban on assassination is traced to 1977, when President Gerald Ford issued the first executive order which prohibited political assassination. In 1981, President Ronald Reagan issued his own Executive Order 12333 which reads: “No person employed by or acting on behalf of the United States government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, assassination.” Subsequent Presidents have not changed the Reagan order banning assassination, but confusion continues to swirl over the meaning of the ban, to the point that some senior lawmakers have actually argued that the ban should be revoked because it might impede the War on Terror. "

from scobib's link above.

so it is illegal internationally!!

we were both right & wrong lordy.

Originally posted by hepkatmama
"Under customary international law assassination has long been recognized as an illegal act. In the United States, the origin of the presidential ban on assassination is traced to 1977, when President Gerald Ford issued the first executive order which prohibited political assassination. In 1981, President Ronald Reagan issued his own Executive Order 12333 which reads: “No person employed by or acting on behalf of the United States government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, assassination.” Subsequent Presidents have not changed the Reagan order banning assassination, but confusion continues to swirl over the meaning of the ban, to the point that some senior lawmakers have actually argued that the ban should be revoked because it might impede the War on Terror. "

from scobib's link above.

so it is illegal internationally!!

we were both right & wrong lordy.

the key words are "customary international law"... try enforcing that language in any court... customary laws aren't worth the ink they are printed with - it's like having a patent in China.

[Element4040]

Whether it is legal or illegal, just taking out Saddam is not going to fix the problem.

Originally posted by Element4040
Whether it is legal or illegal, just taking out Saddam is not going to fix the problem.

Right... you have to kill or silence all members of the 'Dirty Dozen' as the media has branded them... Saddam, his sons, and their 9 major minions... and then watch the rest of the regime crumble on itself.

Originally posted by WarLord
But how far does the purge go?

The Ba'ath Party has its tentacles into everything.

Where do you want to stop?

Who knows? I mean, realistically if the leadership is gone and the party crumbles, the new government (whatever it may look like, I've seen all kinds of predictions) will most likely have fun rooting out the rest of them on their own... it all depends, I guess, on how effective the campaign is and what the political climate looks like afterwards? It's not an easy question to answer...

If they are going to all this trouble, then they had better damn well "get it right". For whatever that's worth... Hahahaha... I couldn't even keep a straight face as I typed "get it right".

[Element4040]

Well that is why there is going to be occupation, unfortunately that is the only way to stabilize the country after the war. Because like you said, I am sure there are going to be some remnants of the Party remaining eve after the War.

[hepkatmama]

you know if i use really sharp scissors i can cut out the bad guy's face on the wanted poster & glue a new one on the shoulders of the villian all day long.

make a good bad guy poster & u can keep changing the name but not the alleged crimes against them.

snip snip snip

"fuck lets quit worrying about osama , he's too hard to find in this wasteland"

snip snip snip goo goo glue

"sadaam is the bad guy, sik em. and when he's gone we will 'occupy' the oil fields and 'protect' them with our power"

snip snip snip goo goo glue

"that new guy running the oil fields is the devil. rinse repeat as necessary"

snip snip snip ==> u get the picture.


ELEMENT4040:: bush said the sadaam's regime was the reason we were fighting. he said if sadaam was exiled the bombing would stop. so argue with the president's logic, not mine.

[Element4040]

I am not disagreeing or agreeing with anyone, I am just stating my opinion that taking out Saddam alone will not fix the problem, whether he is assasinated or exiled.