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Old 03-21-03, 04:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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environmental impact of this war

the oil wells are lit & burning so brite the satellites can see them

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/...lls/index.html
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Old 03-21-03, 04:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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yeah... something that even Saddam said they wouldn't do... Imagine that, he's not living up to his own word?
 
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Old 03-21-03, 05:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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wow, u mean sadaam came out of hiding to lite those fires?

there are so many!!!

he must have caught a ride with santa & taught him to smoke blunts on the trip.
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Old 03-21-03, 08:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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What about the Depleted Uranium munitions left over from the last Gulf War that have caused cancer in Southern Iraq?
 
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Old 03-22-03, 02:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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By lighting fires this is supposed to scare us?
 
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Old 03-22-03, 04:05 PM   #6 (permalink)
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By lighting fires this is supposed to scare us?
I'm not sure what the idea behind it is. I'm sure part of it is that it's supposed to be a slap in the face. Kind of a "nya nya, look at aaallllllll this oil we're wasting!" kind of thing. I also think it can cause problems for forces in the area. I'm not sure how, but maybe from a visibility standpoint? Maybe the fumes/smoke from the fires make it hard to breathe? Meh...

If for no other reason, it does make for good television!
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Old 03-22-03, 05:45 PM   #7 (permalink)
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facts on Depleted Uranium from the WHO

Read about it here...

It's amazing what some people will do to spin things into a shitstorm of controversy... this whole DU thing reminds me of the saccharin scare, EMF risks, etc., etc. etc. I can make data look like anything I want, too.

Here's another thing - there's arsenic in POTATOS. That's right... beware potatos and potato-based products... they're evil.
 
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Old 03-23-03, 07:34 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 03-24-03, 01:59 AM   #9 (permalink)
 
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Re: facts on Depleted Uranium from the WHO

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Read about it here...

It's amazing what some people will do to spin things into a shitstorm of controversy... this whole DU thing reminds me of the saccharin scare, EMF risks, etc., etc. etc. I can make data look like anything I want, too.

Here's another thing - there's arsenic in POTATOS. That's right... beware potatos and potato-based products... they're evil.
Hey man, DU is no joke. I dialyize with a guy (3 days a week) who partially/possibly holds DU exposure responsible for his kidney failure. Yes, he is a Gulf War Veteran. You have the right to believe what you want to believe but here are links with more info on DU I think you should read....

http://www.iacenter.org/depleted/du.htm
http://www.iacenter.org/depleted/mettoc.htm
http://www.cadu.org.uk/
http://www.tv.cbc.ca/national/pgminfo/du/
http://www.stopnato.org.uk/du-watch/
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Old 03-24-03, 09:38 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I've read all that and more... and, I've read information from the "other" side that refutes everything that these sites claim. So, who's right?

That being said, I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of a DU round...
 
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I think it's pretty common sense to suggest that flying shrapnel and dust of nuclear waste is going to have some sort of health risk. Unfortunately, not enough studies have been done to confirm the degree of risk existing by these munitions.

Moreover, even the military knows that a health risk exists. There are specific safety procedures for thosee who handle DU shells to prevent contact with them when transporting and loading them. However...there are no safety procedures for those in the field witness to the explosions of these shells.
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Old 03-25-03, 01:51 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I've got some (non-depleted)uranium marbles if anyone wants some.
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Old 03-25-03, 11:15 AM   #13 (permalink)
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go to a VA hospital & then u won't have to weigh the biases of the media.

can't argue with a down vet who isn't getting any compensation for the injuries he received due to environmental factors. i JUST FOUND out yesterday that vets don't get compensated for everything they acquire during their service. only stuff that the govt. can justify was done to them directly from the other side. which would explain all those angry agent orange, jungle rot & gulf war syndrome victims... getting blowed off by the govt. i sacrificed to protect would piss me off too.

the point of this thread was supposed to be about how blowing things up is bad for us.

even blood in a stream makes the water undrinkable.

but lighting the fires from a militaristic standpoint would not only endanger the immediate troops, but would also force the aggressors to have to redirect energy and manpower to work on putting out the super dangerous fires.

so it gives them a great distraction so they can slip away.

obvious this thread has been captured. where is the white flag smiley? i give up
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Old 03-25-03, 11:30 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Putting out well fires isn't the military's problem, so using well fires as some sort of delaying tactic doesn't really work. What would happen in those cases is an engineering or civilian affairs unit would identify the civilian resources needed (Like Boots & Coots or Red Adair) to deal with the fires and then move on. Combat troops for certain wouldn't stop long enough to warm their hands, let alone fight a well fire.
 
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