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Old 10-19-03, 08:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Molester Beaten In Jail Cell By Former Victim

Attacker, 22, Recognizes Kevin Kinder As Man Who Abused Him 11 Years Ago


POSTED: 6:11 p.m. EDT October 10, 2003
UPDATED: 6:18 p.m. EDT October 10, 2003


TAMPA, Fla. -- A convicted child molester who was placed in the same Florida jail cell with one of his victims was beaten unconscious Thursday.

The former victim was being held on a probation violation.

Authorities say he recognized cellmate Kevin Kinder as the man who abused him and three other boys when he was 11 years old.

His lawyer said the man, who is now 22, jumped on Kinder and punched him repeatedly.

The former victim's mother called the encounter a "fluke" but added that it was very "therapeutic" for her son.

There were about 65 other inmates in the holding cell at the time of the attack.

Kinder is serving 60 years in state prison on a probation violation after serving six years for molesting the four boys. He was at the Tampa facility for a hearing.

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Old 10-19-03, 11:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Yeah boy, fu<k up that molester.

Yeah boy, fu<k up that molester.
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Old 10-19-03, 11:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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oh HELL YA........if only this kind of retribution can take place more often.



I'm surprised he didnt fuckin kill the bastard.

probably would have if they'd not tore him off the son of a bitch.


I hope to god they dont give that kid anymore time because of his reaction.
 
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Old 10-20-03, 12:32 AM   #4 (permalink)
 
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he got what he deserved.
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Old 10-20-03, 03:30 AM   #5 (permalink)
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all of which raises interesting questions.....

When a person commits a crime, is caught, tried and convicted - society demands a consequence for that crime - punishment......

we have a deal here - do this bad thing and get caught - pay the consequences - that is the law....

should we be gleeful that this evil man was beaten (from a personal point of view - of course we should) or should we be concerned that another crime, battery, has been committed?

do we ignore a crime based on the circumstances of the parties involved? How do you deal with the man who kills the criminal who raped his daughter, mother, wife etc?

here, the younger man had, from a moral point of view, clear cause to beat this ass senseless - but - he none the less committed a crime - - he would simply argue a justification - he hurt me - I returned the favor

anyway - your thoughts?
 
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Old 10-20-03, 03:41 AM   #6 (permalink)
 
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once more, he got what he deserved.

he willingly gave up his right not to
be beaten up, when he decided to
be a child molester.

he's fair game now.
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Old 10-20-03, 07:56 AM   #7 (permalink)
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he's lucky that dude didnt kill his ass, I would have.
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Old 10-20-03, 08:51 AM   #8 (permalink)
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should we be gleeful that this evil man was beaten (from a personal point of view - of course we should) or should we be concerned that another crime, battery, has been committed?

do we ignore a crime based on the circumstances of the parties involved? How do you deal with the man who kills the criminal who raped his daughter, mother, wife etc?

here, the younger man had, from a moral point of view, clear cause to beat this ass senseless - but - he none the less committed a crime - - he would simply argue a justification - he hurt me - I returned the favor

anyway - your thoughts?



While I am only human and would not object to this molester being beaten, this in fact, is the problem. Where human vigilante justice leaves off and the balance of the justice system takes over.

Mob rule of the people would abuse the man who abused, beat him down in a lynch mob if they had their way. Perhaps, an eye for an eye. It was after all, justified? This is the type of behavior that perpetuates a cycle of violence, not unlike the middle east. A palestinian suicide bombs Israelis and the Israelis target palestinians.

And while I don't agree with his sentence, (I feel this person obviously has a psychological fetish and needs many years of correctional therapy on top of his prison sentence), I wouldn't trust my own personal judgement upon him, which is beat the living shit out of him until he is a bloody pulp.


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Old 10-20-03, 11:45 AM   #10 (permalink)
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if you ever get the chance to ask a cop or inmate....

ask them who gets killed the most in prison....

cop in jail and child molesters.

and while yes the man should not have been assaulted, at least he was assaulted by the man he molested years ago....

who says karma doesnt exist?
 
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Old 10-20-03, 01:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The saddest part of the whole story is the kid who beat him up did get his time extended due to the beating.
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Old 10-20-03, 06:54 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The saddest part of the whole story is the kid who beat him up did get his time extended due to the beating.
the Kid - beat up the guy - this is a crime.

We may sympathize greatly with the "kid's" motivation - however - the law rarely asks "why" you did what you did - just "what did you do?"

A justification defense may reduce murder to manslaughter when you shoot the guy in bed with you wife - but it does not make the husband innocent.

Having said that, if I was the judge passing sentence on the kid I'd sentence the time to be either served concurrently with whatever other sentence he was serving or to local time - this saying - "yes you did it bad boy" and giving a wink and a nod to punishing the crime
 
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