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Old 10-21-03, 11:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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BANGKOK (Reuters) - An unrepentant Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad repeated Tuesday his belief that Jews rule the world, denied President Bush had rebuked him for it and hit out at Australian leader John Howard.

Mahathir, who steps down at the end of the month after 22 years in power, told the Bangkok Post in an interview that widespread criticism of his recent remark that "Jews rule the world by proxy" proved he was right.

"The reaction of the world shows that they control the world," he told the newspaper.

"Israel is a small country. There are not so many Jews in the world. But they are so arrogant, they defy the whole world. Even if the United Nations says no, they go ahead. Why? Because they have the backing of all these people," Mahathir said.

Bush called the initial comments -- which the outspoken leader of largely Muslim Malaysia said were taken out of context -- "wrong and divisive," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said.
"It stands squarely against what I believe," he quoted Bush as telling Mahathir during the annual summit of the 21-member Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum in Bangkok.

But Mahathir said reports Bush had rebuked him were wrong.
"Certainly, he did not rebuke me," Mahathir told a news conference after the two-day summit ended. "All he said was that 'I regret today to have to use strong words against you'," Mahathir said.

"After that we were walking practically hand-in-hand."
The Nazi-hunting Simon Wiesenthal Center said Mahathir's speech could spur violence against Jews.

"This is incitement against Jews and it provides a rationale and motivation for terror against Jews," Ephraim Zuroff, director of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Israel, told Reuters.

The World Union for Progressive Judaism, an umbrella body grouping liberal and reform Jewish communities around the world, urged acting U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Bertrand Ramcharan to speak out against Mahathir's "racist remarks."

FROSTY POLITENESS AHEAD

Australian Prime Minister John Howard, speaking after the interview was published, promised frosty politeness when he met Mahathir on the final day of the summit.

"I will maintain cordiality and no more with Dr. Mahathir," he said.
Mahathir, who has always had a prickly relationship with his counterparts from Canberra whom he accuses of trying to be the U.S. 'deputy sheriff' in Asia, said Howard was merely performing to type.

"There's a fondness among leaders in Australia, prime ministers of Australia, to make nasty comments like calling me recalcitrant, et cetera," he said.

"John Howard did the same thing, repeatedly, even casting aspersions on our judicial system, as if we do not understand law, we don't understand fair deal and justice."

"In fact, we do. We had a very good history of treating our aborigines, for example. We didn't shoot them dead. We didn't commit genocide. So when making criticism of other people, please look at your own background and temper it with some humility."

In the Bangkok Post interview, Mahathir complained that reports of his remarks on Jews last week to an Islamic summit in Malaysia, which the United States, the European Union, Australia and others denounced as anti-Semitic, "just picked up one sentence in my speech."

News accounts had ignored his condemnation of all violence, including suicide bombings, and his call on Muslims to heed the teachings of the Koran and talk peace with Israel, he said.
Asked why he thought this was the case, Mahathir replied: "Well, many newspapers are owned by Jews. They only see that angle and they have a powerful influence over the thinking of many people. Only their side of the picture is given now."

New Zealand Prime Minister Helen Clark disputed that.
"Having seen the item on television myself, it's hard to see how you could have misinterpreted it. It was a most unfortunate message," she said
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how does that make him Hitler?
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Old 10-21-03, 02:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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how does that make him Hitler?


do i really have to explain? hitler...? jews...? i dont know, their blatant hatred for jews?

its nothing new.. using the jews as a scapegoat as always..
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do i really have to explain? hitler...? jews...? i dont know, their blatant hatred for jews?

its nothing new.. using the jews as a scapegoat as always..
I didn't see anything particularly hateful, or looking to commit genocide. What he said isn't any different from the countless other freemason or Jewish-world control conspiracy theories that nobody seems to equate with Hitler.
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Old 10-21-03, 02:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I didn't see anything particularly hateful, or looking to commit genocide. What he said isn't any different from the countless other freemason or Jewish-world control conspiracy theories that nobody seems to equate with Hitler.

hateful? this guy has a past of anti-semitic remark's, and if you cant see where he is going with this, your're a blind fool. this just adds to the flame of hatred, and will further spark more violence around the world.

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"The Europeans killed 6 million Jews out of 12 million, but today the Jews rule the world by proxy," "If we had paused to think, then we could have devised a plan, a strategy that can win us final victory." "1.3 billion Muslims cannot be defeated by a few million Jews,"


if sharon would've said anything of this magnitude, the arab world would have gone nuts. and im sure sharon's head would be on a stake.
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The second "quote" you gave isn't even in the story. Thanks for libel.
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stop crying like a baby you sourpuss.. this is what i have on my hard-drive that i copied off of the washington post friday, after the FIRST speech..

libel my ass... :



PUTRAJAYA, Malaysia (AP) - Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad on Thursday told a summit of Islamic leaders that "Jews rule the world by proxy" and the world's 1.3 billion Muslims should unite, using nonviolent means for a "final victory."

His speech at the Organization of the Islamic Conference summit, which he was hosting, drew criticism from Jewish leaders, who warned it could spark more violence against Jews.

Mahathir - known for his outspoken, anti-Western rhetoric - criticized what he described as Jewish domination of the world and Muslim nations' inability to adequately respond to it.

The Europeans killed 6 million Jews out of 12 million, but today the Jews rule the world by proxy," Mahathir said, opening the meeting of Islamic leaders from 57 nations. "They get others to fight and die for them."

Malaysia, a democratic nation which has a large non-Muslim population and does not enforce strict Islamic law, has long been a critic of Israel's occupation of Palestinian territories and of U.S. policy in the Middle East, including the war in Iraq and Washington's strong backing of the Jewish state.

Mahathir, 77, who is retiring on Oct. 31, has used almost every international podium to lambaste the West for two decades, winning a reputation as an outspoken champion of Third World causes.

"For well over half a century we have fought over Palestine. What have we achieved? Nothing. We are worse off than before," he said. "If we had paused to think, then we could have devised a plan, a strategy that can win us final victory."

The prime minister, who has turned his country into the world's 17th-ranked trading nation during his 22 years in power, said Jews "invented socialism, communism, human rights and democracy" to avoid persecution and gain control of the most powerful countries.

Mahathir added that "1.3 billion Muslims cannot be defeated by a few million Jews," but he suggested using political and economic tactics instead of violence.

Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Jonathan Peled expressed disappointment in the remarks but said he wasn't surprised.
"It is not new that in such forums there is always an attempt to reach the lowest common denominator, which is Israel bashing," he said in Jerusalem. "But obviously we'd like to see more moderate and responsible kind of declarations coming out of such summits."

Rabbi Abraham Cooper, associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles, said Mahathir has used anti-Israel statements in the past to prove he's tough on the West. But, he said, Thursday's speech was still worrisome.

"What is profoundly shocking and worrying is the venue of the speech, the audience and coming in the time we're living in," Cooper said during a visit to Jerusalem. "Mahathir's speech today is an absolute invitation for more hate crimes and terrorism against Jews. That's serious."

U.S. Ambassador to Malaysia Marie Huhtala declined to comment on Mahathir's speech. Washington was angered over a speech he made in February, as host of the Non-Aligned Movement of 117 countries, in which he described the looming war against Iraq as racist.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai said he supported Mahathir's analysis, which also included steps for how Muslim nations can develop economically and socially.

"It is great to hear Prime Minister Mahathir speak so eloquently on the problems of the ummah (Muslim world) and ways to remedy them," Karzai said. "His speech was an eye-opener to a lot of us and that is what the Islamic world should do."

The summit is the first since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks reshaped global politics and comes at a time when many Muslims - even U.S. allies - feel the war on terrorism has become a war against them.

"It is well known that the Islamic community is being targeted today more than at any other time before in its creed, culture and social and political orientation," said Qatar's ruler, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, who hosted the U.S. headquarters in the Iraq war.

The status of Iraq also proved a divisive issue. Malaysia resisted inviting the U.S.-picked Iraqi Governing Council, describing it as a puppet of American occupation. But Arab countries that have recognized the interim body prevailed and council representatives were attending the summit.

Leaders attending the summit included Jordan's King Abullah, Syrian President Bashar Assad, Morocco's King Mohammed VI, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf and Indonesian President Megawati Sukarnoputri.

Russian President Vladimir Putin and Philippine President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo are attending as special observers because of their large Muslim minorities.
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You completely distort the story with your series of "quotes". First of all, he's advocating a nonviolent solution. Second, the comment about finding final victory is about Palestine, not all the Muslims. Never does he talk about committing genocide against the Jews.
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You completely distort the story with your series of "quotes". First of all, he's advocating a nonviolent solution. Second, the comment about finding final victory is about Palestine, not all the Muslims. Never does he talk about committing genocide against the Jews.


the guy has a past of VIOLENT remarks.. he is known for it..

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look, that comment ALONE, shows that he is an anti-semitic piece of trash. who in their right mind would say anything like that?

its despicable...


if bush made such a comment about "arabs", he would be forced to resign....

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which comment alone?

i will post 2:

1)"If we had paused to think, then we could have devised a plan, a strategy that can win us final victory."

2)"1.3 billion Muslims cannot be defeated by a few million Jews"


if bush made the statement vice-versa, he would be forced to resign, and he would be labeled a racist..
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