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Old 12-09-03, 04:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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9 children murdered by us air strike

Monday, December 8th, 2003
U.S. Air Strike Kills 9 Children in Afghanistan

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Nine children were killed in southern Afghanistan when two U.S. warplanes fired rockets and bullets into a group of villagers sitting under a tree. The military claimed they were trying to assassinate a member of the Taliban. We speak with Women For Afghan Women’s Masuda Sultan who lost 19 members of her family in a U.S. attack two years ago.
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Nine children were killed in southern Afghanistan when two U.S. warplanes fired rockets and bullets into a group of villagers sitting under a tree. The military claimed they were trying to assassinate a member of the Taliban. Local residents told the BBC, the man [Mullar Wazir] had left the area 10 days before. The UN said the incident was "profoundly distressing" and announced plans for an investigation. The BBC described their target as a low-ranking member of the Taliban who was suspected of overseeing the murders of two foreign contractors.
Last week Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld traveled to Afghanistan where he met with rival warlords, Abdul Rashid Dostum and Atta Mohammed, and later held talks with President Hamid Karzai at his presidential palace.

Rumsfeld said the warlords whose forces collaborated with American ground troops to help topple the Taliban regime two years ago, are making progress toward disarmament.


Masuda Sultan, program coordinator for Women for Afghan Women. She has traveled to Afghanistan four times since the U.S. began bombing two years ago. She was living in New York at the time of Sept. 11 and traveled back to Afghanistan a few months later only to learn a U.S. attack had killed 19 members of her family.



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Old 12-09-03, 09:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
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They must have been carrying RPG's with chemical weapons.
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Old 12-09-03, 03:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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That was not murder, if anything it would be negligent homicide.
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That was not murder, if anything it would be negligent homicide.
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I would like to know what ever happened to good ole sniper rifles?
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Old 12-09-03, 04:46 PM   #5 (permalink)
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From a statutory point of view - murder is murder whether the intent is specific, pre-meditated, transferred or negligent.

We don't have all the facts on this so its hard to speculate.

If the pilot relied on information from an otherwise reliable source its difficult to show negligence.

Tragedy for certain, whether more culpable or not depends on a getting a lot more information.

Does anyone really believe that American pilots like to run around killing women and children? I'm sure the pilot is sick with guilt and horror over the event.
 
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Old 12-09-03, 05:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
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They don't cost a billion dollars to manufacture and deliver to a target, unlike cruise missiles and supersonic jet fighters.

It's not about the most effective way of doing it, or accurate....it's about spending the most amount of money possible with the fewest returns.

It's the Republican way.
Exactly and it's just sad that so many people don't realize this. The first thing that comes to mind when I hear about them dropping a bomb to kill 1 person. Like Infrared said what happened to the good ol sniper rifle. Well ya ain't making money of 1 bullet.
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while on missions the pilot is focused on his objectives, he doesn't need to be thinking about what will happen is something goes wrong. they gather the facts, if the investigation concludes that the pilot knowingly broke the rules of engagement and is guilty of negligence then there will be a court marshal
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thats not my job
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Old 12-10-03, 12:43 PM   #9 (permalink)
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the method was flawed in the attempt.

but ive said it a MILLION times on here. war sucks, innocent people die........get over it.

its when its deliberate is when its wrong.
 
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the method was flawed in the attempt.

but ive said it a MILLION times on here. war sucks, innocent people die........get over it.

its when its deliberate is when its wrong.

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Old 12-10-03, 02:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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If it's wrong when people are deliberately put in harm's way and may die by another's decision....

Then we need to be impeaching George II RIGHT NOW.

Clearly the point was that it is wrong to target women and children rather than combatants.
 
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