Manufacturing Confusion

[Adam D]

Originally posted by bfp
Do you have any evidence to back up these claims? Saying that the people that have lost their jobs 'usually' go straight to a cubicle or straight to Wal-Mart? How can you determine the motives of thousands of people?

I can't determine their motives. I'm not. That's a combination of common sense and observation of people who I've worked with before (that would make it empirical data). Generally, if you have no college education, the only jobs outside of manufacturing you have available are entry level jobs in the service industry, minimum wage jobs, or other manufacturing jobs. Minimum wage jobs would not be a "better job" and if they are moving out of manufacturing, what is left is some sort of entry level service job or other manual labor, but I assumed TypeH would include other manual labor jobs to be in the same category. If not, then many would probably filter in to those positions as well. It's likely if you work full time to pay your bills you aren't going to have the ability to work part time or not at all and go to college for 4+ years.

Maybe they were able to get a loan on their college tuitions. Maybe not.

Possibly, but I doubt that is, or would be the standard behavior.

Maybe they got tired of working the way they did and decided they wanted to make a change and open up a small buisness?

Some might do that too. But the question was whether they would seek higher end jobs, so I limited the question to the obtaining of new jobs, not starting new businesses.

No, of course not, because everyone in your view is indeed illiterate and needs help. Specifically from the gov't. The gov't should provide people with jobs, homes, health-care, househeld computers, etc to keep up with the rest of society.

That's a bullshit assumption and an outright lie. I've never suggested any of that. Again, it's an assumption that you can't prove.

Maybe, they immediately found another good-paying job that was better than the last.

Possibly so, but that's highly unlikely. By "higher end job" I'm believing that to be something not in a manufacturing or labor employment, which means you're probably going to work in some sort of office. Without any training or experience in that field, it's much more difficult to get a "higher end job" especially right out of the manual labor workforce.

[johnny861]

Originally posted by bfp

Do you have any evidence to back up these claims? Saying that the people that have lost their jobs 'usually' go straight to a cubicle or straight to Wal-Mart? How can you determine the motives of thousands of people?


I think the intention was to generalize...

cubicles and wal-mart are the epitome of temp or office admins and low end service jobs...



Maybe they were able to get a loan on their college tuitions. Maybe not.
Maybe they got tired of working the way they did and decided they wanted to make a change and open up a small buisness? No, of course not, because everyone in your view is indeed illiterate and needs help. Specifically from the gov't. The gov't should provide people with jobs, homes, health-care, househeld computers, etc to keep up with the rest of society.


Fortunately, not all people fit this description... however, the ones that do are the ones stuck in a bad situation. A change is occuring and these people will need a little help in dealing with this change in our society.

A service economy is not necessarily bad and is not limited to being a cashier at some fast food chain. Supply-Chain management is a good example of the wealth people and companies can acquire in a service economy.

Many legit work from home programs are taking off like wildfire...
My sister recently joined a company and is already making a pretty decent living at home.

There is also a world of brand new business models that are spreading about and are reshaping businesses or founding new businesses with success. Our company recently went through a re-branding with a new model of business and this year has brought us back into profitability from last year's loss.

However, along with the change will need to be a re-tooling of one's skillset...

manufacturing killed the guildsmen' trades....

and most likely this new economy will kill the factory workers