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Old 01-18-04, 10:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Greenpeace co-founder denounces colleagues

Greenpeace co-founder denounces colleagues
Says movement he helped lead inflicts 'pain and suffering' on poor

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A co-founder of the environmental group Greenpeace will join a civil rights group in condemnation of "the global green movement's oppression of poor people in the Third World."

Patrick Moore will be a panelist Tuesday at a conference in New York City hosted by the Congress of Racial Equality, which is based in the city.

"The environmental movement I helped found has lost its objectivity, morality and humanity," said Moore in a statement issued by the group. "The pain and suffering it inflicts on families in developing countries can no longer be tolerated."

Moore will be one of eight experts from around the world who will contend, citing personal experience, "environmental extremists deny destitute nations electricity and deepen the poverty, malaria, malnutrition, tuberculosis and dysentery that kill their people."

Other panelists will include Paul Driessen, author of "Eco-Imperialism: Green Power Black Death"; Deroy Murdock of the Atlas Economic Research Foundation; USA; and CS Prakash of Tuskegee University.

CORE asserts the restriction of DDT promoted by the World Health Organization and radical environmental groups has played a significant part in the deaths of 2 million people each year from malaria.

The group contends ideological opposition to economic and energy development in the Third World has fostered a situation in which 2 billion people lack electricity, running water and other basic necessities and conveniences.
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Nature abhors a vacuum and religion is a powerful civilizing and socializing force. It is not perfect, but at least it does not deny human nature. Most leftest ideology is based upon the idea that evil is the result of social conditions/injustice, and simple misunderstandings. Man's nature is seen as both inherently good and infinitely malleable. It is believed that man can be made into something better through education and other social endeavors. The truth is that human nature is not inherently good and neither is terribly changable. Any system that denies the truth about human nature will be the victim of it. Communism is only one of the more horrific examples of this fundamental truth.

I understand why you're a socialist. You want to make the world a better place. What you need to understand is that not everyone can be helped and those who can are best served by providing them with the opportunity to help themselves.
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Sorry for running off topic, but do you realize your sig line comes from one of the most leftist figures in the US? Maybe he's even a "godless socialist".
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Sorry for running off topic, but do you realize your sig line comes from one of the most leftist figures in the US? Maybe he's even a "godless socialist".
Oh I didnt know. Now since I am such an ideologue I must immediately remove my sig because I am just a right wing crazy earth-wrecking sexist capitalist racist neocon........ NOT

Unlike most reactionary leftists on this board, I judge the quote by how much sense it makes, not by the creed of the man that wrote it.

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Nature abhors a vacuum and religion is a powerful civilizing and socializing force. It is not perfect, but at least it does not deny human nature. Most leftest ideology is based upon the idea that evil is the result of social conditions/injustice, and simple misunderstandings. Man's nature is seen as both inherently good and infinitely malleable. It is believed that man can be made into something better through education and other social endeavors. The truth is that human nature is not inherently good and neither is terribly changable. Any system that denies the truth about human nature will be the victim of it. Communism is only one of the more horrific examples of this fundamental truth.

I understand why you're a socialist. You want to make the world a better place. What you need to understand is that not everyone can be helped and those who can are best served by providing them with the opportunity to help themselves.
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Oh I didnt know. Now since I am such an ideologue I must immediately remove my sig because I am just a right wing crazy earth-wrecking sexist capitalist racist neocon........ NOT

Unlike most reactionary leftists on this board, I judge the quote by how much sense it makes, not by the creed of the man that wrote it.

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I was just pointing that out to you. Calm the hell down.

I'm just suggesting that if you're going to run around calling people "godless socialists" as though that's some sort of an insult, you should probably not associate yourself with them.
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I was just pointing that out to you. Call the hell down.

I'm just suggesting that if you're going to run around calling people "godless socialists" as though that's some sort of an insult, you should probably not associate yourself with them.

If it isn't an insult - it is certainly as funny as calling somebody a "commie"
 
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If it isn't an insult - it is certainly as funny as calling somebody a "commie"
It makes me laugh to be called both.
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i like to call people who cut me off in traffic, computers that wont cooperate, jars that wont open "communist" or even worse "national socialist"
 
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It makes me laugh to call you commie
 
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i like to call people who cut me off in traffic, computers that wont cooperate, jars that wont open "communist" or even worse "national socialist"
fuck those nazi jars
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I was just pointing that out to you. Calm the hell down.

I'm just suggesting that if you're going to run around calling people "godless socialists" as though that's some sort of an insult, you should probably not associate yourself with them.

Really Adam, where did I call you a godless socialist?
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Nature abhors a vacuum and religion is a powerful civilizing and socializing force. It is not perfect, but at least it does not deny human nature. Most leftest ideology is based upon the idea that evil is the result of social conditions/injustice, and simple misunderstandings. Man's nature is seen as both inherently good and infinitely malleable. It is believed that man can be made into something better through education and other social endeavors. The truth is that human nature is not inherently good and neither is terribly changable. Any system that denies the truth about human nature will be the victim of it. Communism is only one of the more horrific examples of this fundamental truth.

I understand why you're a socialist. You want to make the world a better place. What you need to understand is that not everyone can be helped and those who can are best served by providing them with the opportunity to help themselves.
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A few days ago you refered to all of us on the left as godless socialists.
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A few days ago you refered to all of us on the left as godless socialists.
I did a search to confirm or deny what you say about me and only two results come up, one by you and the other by dropzone.

I did not say these words and prove that you are full of shit because of the following.


Search on DDM for godless socialists -- CLICK HERE



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anointed used to refer to godless socialists is funny misuse of a word.






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Sorry for running off topic, but do you realize your sig line comes from one of the most leftist figures in the US? Maybe he's even a "godless socialist".
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Nature abhors a vacuum and religion is a powerful civilizing and socializing force. It is not perfect, but at least it does not deny human nature. Most leftest ideology is based upon the idea that evil is the result of social conditions/injustice, and simple misunderstandings. Man's nature is seen as both inherently good and infinitely malleable. It is believed that man can be made into something better through education and other social endeavors. The truth is that human nature is not inherently good and neither is terribly changable. Any system that denies the truth about human nature will be the victim of it. Communism is only one of the more horrific examples of this fundamental truth.

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I'm sorry here, you called us "god-less leftist commies" which is an equivalent term. I don't know whether being a commie or a socialist is worse in your eyes.

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I'm sorry here, you called us "god-less leftist commies" which is an equivalent term. I don't know whether being a commie or a socialist is worse in your eyes.

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yeh we should just let the blacks and hispanics deal with the burden of drug infestation in their neighborhoods
that was never the white mans problem


yeh women should have to go into someones house and recieve an abortion by someone who has neither proved their credentials as a licensed physician etc.
let the dirty bitches use coat hangers



ok now I'm personally not a big fan of permiscuous sex
but you've got to be kidding me in saying that the "Sexual Revolution" lead to the development of aids
it may have helped in its spreading
but
people were still whores in the 50's
don't kid yourself
just because people had white washed fences and came home at night to watch leave it beaver doesn't mean they all lived faithfull, chastized lives
FYI
syphillis can kill you

disease is a natural occurance in our enviroment
people having sex out of wedlock did not lead to the development of AID's
I swear u fucking christian coalition right wing freaks must recieve memo's from your pastor on how to blame all social ills on the development of society
no no... science never has anything to do with it
its the sinners
its the secular liberals
they're to blame
we go home at night and share our girlfriends with the devil while spitting fire out of our asses



So Adam because I make a smartass retort about the quoted guy talking sh!t about christain coalition you take me out of context to say that I call everyone on this board a godless socialist.

Why dont you bother to read posts better?

Adam D = Still full of sh!t after 5429 posts. :-) .

Later.


PS Just kidding man, But why dont you stop trying to pigeonhole me as some sort of rightwing freek?
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I'm not sure how "I swear u fucking godless leftists commies must recieve memo's from your NGO on how to blame all social ills on the christian coalition right wing freaks " can be misinterpreted.
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