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johnny861 · 01-29-04, 03:58 PM

Has this country gone so far with our political beliefs that we may plunge into a civil war between leftists and rightists?

Any Civil Predictions you guys have for the next 5 years?

What are your thoughts?

Adam D · 01-29-04, 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by johnny861
Has this country gone so far with our political beliefs that we may plunge into a civil war between leftists and rightists?

Any Civil Predictions you guys have for the next 5 years?

What are your thoughts?

No, but that's often the way political civil wars are explained to justify some of the larger state atrocities during them. You can throw a dart at pretty much anywhere in Latin America and find that kind of rhetoric somewhere in their recent history.

The right would have no reason to start a war, the government is already aligned with them. The left? Possibly, but that's really doubtful. Most of the left won't leave their chairs to do anything despite the rhetoric. If anything, it would be a civil war between the haves and the have-nots, as most civil wars are.

Hey Bubu · 01-29-04, 04:23 PM

People are too damn lazy to start another civil war. As long as they (the masses) are left somewhat alone and their needs, wants and demands are met, they will be happy little cows going to the slaughter house

johnny861 · 01-29-04, 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by Adam D
No, but that's often the way political civil wars are explained to justify some of the larger state atrocities during them. You can throw a dart at pretty much anywhere in Latin America and find that kind of rhetoric somewhere in their recent history.

The right would have no reason to start a war, the government is already aligned with them. The left? Possibly, but that's really doubtful. Most of the left won't leave their chairs to do anything despite the rhetoric. If anything, it would be a civil war between the haves and the have-nots, as most civil wars are.

I agree with the have and have-nots...

There's a problem in this country that is not going to be easily solved, but lack of trying is going to push the boundaries to the point we may see a lot of civil violence in the near future... perhaps on a revolutionary scale...

Hey Bubu · 01-29-04, 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by johnny861
I agree with the have and have-nots...

There's a problem in this country that is not going to be easily solved, but lack of trying is going to push the boundaries to the point we may see a lot of civil violence in the near future... perhaps on a revolutionary scale...

Look at Venezuela as an extreme example of this.

01-29-04, 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by johnny861
Has this country gone so far with our political beliefs that we may plunge into a civil war between leftists and rightists?

Any Civil Predictions you guys have for the next 5 years?

What are your thoughts?

Abasolutely not.

They are much closer together at the end of the day than they appear in their rhetoric.

01-30-04, 12:23 PM

Indeed - over what issueds would such a war erupt?

Adam D · 01-30-04, 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by xiannaix
Indeed - over what issueds would such a war erupt?

Unless Marxists became seriously popular again in the US, chances are the left would advocate smaller, more civil action, probably involving labor strikes and civil disobedience. But who knows, somewhere down the line that may change.

As far as the right, the only way I would see a civil war break out would be if somebody could figure out how to trip the militias into some sort of frenzy.

bfp · 01-30-04, 06:01 PM

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Unless Marxists became seriously popular again in the US, chances are the left would advocate smaller, more civil action, probably involving labor strikes and civil disobedience.

You mean like the Mob riots that took place in Seattle in 99'?

Which btw included a wide range of radical environmentalists labor workers, hoodlums & the like to do what they do best.

The funny thing about it, when the press was covering the event, I never heard 1 reporter call them 'rioters'. It was either 'protesters' or 'demonstrators'.

01-30-04, 06:04 PM

ever see that movie on HBO the second civil war? it was where forced immigration made idaho succeed from the union. plausable, but very very doubtful.

as far as a left right civil war. thats to general. all civil wars in some capacity are left vs right on some sort of political idealism spectrum.

what do i think would cause a new civil war? quite possibly a social values issue, say abortion or gay rights or something similar. it would have to be something that strong in ideals to divide us into violence.

ah, heres a good one, try a redux of the 2000 election where the decision is a lot more fuzzy and less easily resolved, or maybe more bullheaded politicians are involved.

Adam D · 01-30-04, 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by bfp
You mean like the Mob riots that took place in Seattle in 99'?

Which btw included a wide range of radical environmentalists labor workers, hoodlums & the like to do what they do best.

The funny thing about it, when the press was covering the event, I never heard 1 reporter call them 'rioters'. It was either 'protesters' or 'demonstrators'.

Well, probably because they were protesters and demonstrators. The media did a piss poor job of covering it, just like they did with the anti-war protests last Feb. The "rioters" were only a small group of people there who got out of control. You can't indict an entire group of people because a few were morons.

01-30-04, 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by Adam D
You can't indict an entire group of people because a few were morons.

then 75% of the posts here would never be made.

01-31-04, 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by Adam D
You can't indict an entire group of people because a few were morons.

Sure you can - but you're not likely to get a conviction on that basis

Trey Brister · 01-31-04, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by xiannaix
Sure you can - but you're not likely to get a conviction on that basis

LOL

Adam D · 02-01-04, 01:01 AM

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then 75% of the posts here would never be made.

too true.

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Hey Bubu Funky Spunk Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: take a left at the cow Posts: 17,124	People are too damn lazy to start another civil war. As long as they (the masses) are left somewhat alone and their needs, wants and demands are met, they will be happy little cows going to the slaughter house __________________ "We're so engaged in doing things to achieve purposes of outer value that we forget that the inner value, the rapture that is associated with being alive, is what it's all about." --Joseph Campbell,

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01-30-04, 12:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
xiannaix Guest Posts: n/a	Indeed - over what issueds would such a war erupt?

01-30-04, 06:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
Dropzone Guest Posts: n/a	ever see that movie on HBO the second civil war? it was where forced immigration made idaho succeed from the union. plausable, but very very doubtful. as far as a left right civil war. thats to general. all civil wars in some capacity are left vs right on some sort of political idealism spectrum. what do i think would cause a new civil war? quite possibly a social values issue, say abortion or gay rights or something similar. it would have to be something that strong in ideals to divide us into violence. ah, heres a good one, try a redux of the 2000 election where the decision is a lot more fuzzy and less easily resolved, or maybe more bullheaded politicians are involved.