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Old 02-01-04, 01:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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H-Town fool, Teens held for smashing 'decadent' SUVs

Teens held for smashing 'decadent' SUVs
'Environmental guerrillas' vandalize almost 50 sport utility vehicles

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A teenage self-described environmental guerrilla led a group of peers in vandalizing almost 50 sport utility vehicles in Houston, police charge.




According to the Houston Chronicle, local law-enforcement authorities say the group, led by Randall W. Heinrichs, 18, smashed windows and slashed tires on SUVs in north Harris County, Texas, from October through December.

Capt. Rick Brass says Heinrichs "talks about how [SUVs] are environmentally unfriendly [and] decadent," the paper reported. The officer says the teenager has a "personal hatred" for sport utility vehicles.

Heinrichs is on probation for felony arson in a flag-burning case.

While Heinrichs was nabbed Jan. 9, two other teenage suspects were arrested Tuesday. The ringleader is being held without bail because of his arson probation. The other suspects had bail set at $5,000. A fourth suspect was expected to turn himself in to authorities.

The lone female in the group, Lindsey Garofano, 18, told deputies she particularly resented "arrogant ladies" who drive expensive SUVs instead of buying more economical cars and donating the surplus money to charity, the Chronicle reported.
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Nature abhors a vacuum and religion is a powerful civilizing and socializing force. It is not perfect, but at least it does not deny human nature. Most leftest ideology is based upon the idea that evil is the result of social conditions/injustice, and simple misunderstandings. Man's nature is seen as both inherently good and infinitely malleable. It is believed that man can be made into something better through education and other social endeavors. The truth is that human nature is not inherently good and neither is terribly changable. Any system that denies the truth about human nature will be the victim of it. Communism is only one of the more horrific examples of this fundamental truth.

I understand why you're a socialist. You want to make the world a better place. What you need to understand is that not everyone can be helped and those who can are best served by providing them with the opportunity to help themselves.
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down with suv's
Wheres the PLUR baby?
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Nature abhors a vacuum and religion is a powerful civilizing and socializing force. It is not perfect, but at least it does not deny human nature. Most leftest ideology is based upon the idea that evil is the result of social conditions/injustice, and simple misunderstandings. Man's nature is seen as both inherently good and infinitely malleable. It is believed that man can be made into something better through education and other social endeavors. The truth is that human nature is not inherently good and neither is terribly changable. Any system that denies the truth about human nature will be the victim of it. Communism is only one of the more horrific examples of this fundamental truth.

I understand why you're a socialist. You want to make the world a better place. What you need to understand is that not everyone can be helped and those who can are best served by providing them with the opportunity to help themselves.
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Old 02-01-04, 04:35 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Wheres the PLUR baby?
when a person owns an suv for practicall purposes like...
being someone who has to travel with a large entourage, constantly move shit, etc. etc.
I really have no problem with this
but
its the moms using them simply for groceries who drive on their cell phones putting my life at risk with their 10 ton tank 2 feet from my rear bumper and hiking up gas prices while thinking they're patriotic that get me vexed

and yes
I fucking hate rediculously sized pickup trucks
especially the red neck ones with the monster truck wheels
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Old 02-01-04, 01:47 PM   #6 (permalink)
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when a person owns an suv for practicall purposes like...
being someone who has to travel with a large entourage, constantly move shit, etc. etc.
I really have no problem with this
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its the moms using them simply for groceries who drive on their cell phones putting my life at risk with their 10 ton tank 2 feet from my rear bumper and hiking up gas prices while thinking they're patriotic that get me vexed

and yes
I fucking hate rediculously sized pickup trucks
especially the red neck ones with the monster truck wheels

So Keith - shall we send all SUV purchase requests through your office to dtermine if they buyer should be permitted to own one?

Also - how do they hike up gas prices? They consume more gasoline - which helps drive the price down.


Please

I can agree with you that as a pretty solid rule I think these vehicles suck - but come on
 
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So we're going to negate laws and beat the fuck out of people's cars?


How about starting a grass roots lobbyist group and pull together larges sums of money across the nation and lobby congress...


But I suppose beating the fuck out of one or two suvs and getting arrested is worth the 15 seconds of fame on the local houston news network ... might get one or two people to think to themselves... hmmm.. wonder why they did that?
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Also - how do they hike up gas prices? They consume more gasoline - which helps drive the price down.
bwahahahaha! riiiight!
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Please clarify for me how SUVs drive up gas prices
 
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Hello and welcome to economics......quit taking so many of your name and maybe some sort of clarity will enter your dome.
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Hello and welcome to economics......quit taking so many of your name and maybe some sort of clarity will enter your dome.
I'm not an economist - apparently you are - so - instead of calling me names, further insulting me and still not answering the question.....how about explaining why an SUV drives up the cost of gas....

And try to limit your comments explanation - you've already shown you can be insulting - no need to demonstrate further




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I guess the argument would be as supply goes down, demand goes up, and with that, prices rise as well.
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I guess the argument would be as supply goes down, demand goes up, and with that, prices rise as well.

That'd be the end of the argument if all the gas in the world was sitting in one finite pile that continued to shrink.....but such is not the case.

If demand goes up - and if cost (price) goes with it - the drive for others to get in the market goes up - increasing production and lowering costs.

My comment that SUVs drive the cost down is no more valid than the allegation that they drive it up. It is one insignificant factir in determining price.
 
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That'd be the end of the argument if all the gas in the world was sitting in one finite pile that continued to shrink.....but such is not the case.

If demand goes up - and if cost (price) goes with it - the drive for others to get in the market goes up - increasing production and lowering costs.

My comment that SUVs drive the cost down is no more valid than the allegation that they drive it up. It is one insignificant factir in determining price.
But most oil producing states, especially OPEC, keep production under control so that prices stay high. Even with the world's oil spread out across the globe, there is a finite amount that can be imported to anywhere in the world at a given time. If the US is having to import more oil because of gas-guzzling SUV's, then that's going to drive prices up because you're increasing demand on oil importation which is of course passed on to us. Oil economics makes little sense to anybody though.


I'm not sure I necessarily buy the argument, just spelling it out.
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But most oil producing states, especially OPEC, keep production under control so that prices stay high. Even with the world's oil spread out across the globe, there is a finite amount that can be imported to anywhere in the world at a given time. If the US is having to import more oil because of gas-guzzling SUV's, then that's going to drive prices up because you're increasing demand on oil importation which is of course passed on to us. Oil economics makes little sense to anybody though.


I'm not sure I necessarily buy the argument, just spelling it out.
True - OPEC tries to artificially control the supply side.

We are buying less and laess from OPEC nations. In fact relatively cheap Russian oil in the 90s was one of the causes of the financial boom - oil glut economies do well.

Agreed - oil economics are weird - the market has static demand issues as well as the articifial supply problem. At the end of the day however, to blame the SUV on gas prices going up is absurd.....the causes for increases in price at the pump cannot be said to be a result of more SUVs on the road....one may argue that they are a factor - an amazingly minor factor - when one tries to figure out why prices go up.
 
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