Conservatives are going after our children!

[DJPePe]

Check out this site, this is so hilarious

http://www.bucknellconservatives.org/current.shtml

They all think Ronald Reagan was the greatest president!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Bunch of stupid goose-steppin', Rush Limbaugh obsessed retards. I feel bad for these punk-ass kids who are indoctrinated in such conservative jibberish.

[Trey Brister]

Originally posted by DJPePe
Check out this site, this is so hilarious

http://www.bucknellconservatives.org/current.shtml

They all think Ronald Reagan was the greatest president!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Bunch of stupid goose-steppin', Rush Limbaugh obsessed retards. I feel bad for these punk-ass kids who are indoctrinated in such conservative jibberish.

The new alcohol policy (see page 14) brings to mind a key issue in the search for a new president: the fact that students are adults and should be treated
accordingly. On the surface, that might seem obvious:
we are all over eighteen, we can be drafted to fight and die for our country, we can all vote, hence we are legally adults. But this is apparently not so obvious to some members of the senior administration.
Instead, the present administration acts far too often as if its policies are imperial dictates to be handed down to the lowly students and blindly obeyed, never questioned or criticized. This was certainly the case with the new alcohol policy: the opportunity for student input (the marathon forum) came after the fact.

Yeah the children........ Right.............

Originally posted by DJPePe
Check out this site, this is so hilarious

http://www.bucknellconservatives.org/current.shtml

They all think Ronald Reagan was the greatest president!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Bunch of stupid goose-steppin', Rush Limbaugh obsessed retards. I feel bad for these punk-ass kids who are indoctrinated in such conservative jibberish.

What in particular did you find so abhorrent about the Reagan administration?

The economic recovery? The defeat of our cold war enemy? His challenges to the old hard-line regimes of eastern europe that resulted in the establishment of democratic governments in those nation for the first time in a generation?

And where are these goosesteppers you speak of?

You sound very much like a liberl indoctrinated "punk-ass" "retard." If you're going to cast a wide net of insult like that - give it some basis please - at least I could then disagree on the merits - but as it is - you said noting except for unfounded insults - congrats.

[Ryan]

I looked through some of their member profiles, and some of these people I can kinda understand. I can understand 2nd Ammendment proponents. I completely get the people who want to cut federal spending and taxes. I can even listen to the religious folks who are sincerely driven by what they feel is a moral obligation to oppose abortion, even if I disagree with them. Then there's people like this guy:

http://www.bucknellconservatives.org.../waddell.shtml

This dude is a living argument for postpartum abortion.


On a different note, I love how some of these people state that they are libertarian conservatives and also members of the Republican party. I cannot for the life of me understand this. Let's see here,

1) Libertarians say "cut federal spending and taxes."
Republicans initiate and approve larger spending increases and entightlement programs than either Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton.

2) Libertarians says "leave the government out of abortion."
Republicans attempt to increase government regulation of abortion and would likely ban it if it weren't such a politically volatile issue.

3) Libertarians say "end the war on drugs."
Republicans say "let's increase spending to prosecute more drug users, put more of them in our jails, and keep them there longer - unless, of course, you're a fat, uneducated, arrogant hunk of lard who gets on the radio every day and tells us what we want to hear."

4) Libertarians say "the government should not interfere with a person's sexual freedom or pass any law limiting it."
Republicans say "let's keep the sodamy laws on the books and pass a Constitutional Ammendment to ban gay marriage from here to eternity.


I could go on, but you get the point. What is it that these people have in common with libertarians? Oh, I guess gun control. Are people really voting on that one issue?

[Ryan]

Originally posted by xiannaix
You sound very much like a liberl indoctrinated "punk-ass" "retard." If you're going to cast a wide net of insult like that - give it some basis please - at least I could then disagree on the merits - but as it is - you said noting except for unfounded insults - congrats.

By the way, I agree with you here. Morons are morons, regardless of political persuasion.

[Adam D]

fucken goosesteppers.

[Hey Bubu]

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[Adam D]

Originally posted by Ryan
I could go on, but you get the point. What is it that these people have in common with libertarians? Oh, I guess gun control. Are people really voting on that one issue?

No, but if you look at the way the two parties are presented in the media, and the way some of the politicians present themselves, it makes very good sense.

Democrats are welfare-state-building-government-program-loving-give-away-all-my-money-we-love-special-interests politicians, and Republicans are small-government-give-away-tax-cuts-fiscally-conservative-protect-me-from-the-government politicians. Maybe there's a little truth in both of those, but largely, both of those images are illusory. If you really are a conservative libertarian, you probably look at both of those, don't bother to research much, and pick the Republican. Or maybe he's from somewhere where the Republicans really are fiscally conservative, small government types.

[johnny861]

Yea, I hate it when people step on geese... those horrible agonizing honks of pain...

[Ryan]

Another terrifying individual:

http://www.bucknellconservatives.org.../benlove.shtml

Anyone who states that George W. Bush is their "hero" needs a head examination and a steady dose of lithium.

[Adam D]

We have these same sorts at UNT. Some of them are really funny about how knee-jerk they are of being Republicans, like they don't even know what their own beloved politicians are doing. I get the "brightest" of them in my poli sci classes. In my poli sci class this semester, there's a guy who started some re-elect Bush group on campus. Anytime there's a political group or person he doesn't know (which is quite often, apparently) he immediately chimes in with the same answer:

"isn't that some sort of an extremist far-left group/liberal?"

Sometimes I can't keep the laughing inside.

[Ryan]

Originally posted by Adam D
We have these same sorts at UNT. Some of them are really funny about how knee-jerk they are of being Republicans, like they don't even know what their own beloved politicians are doing. I get the "brightest" of them in my poli sci classes. In my poli sci class this semester, there's a guy who started some re-elect Bush group on campus. Anytime there's a political group or person he doesn't know (which is quite often, apparently) he immediately chimes in with the same answer:

"isn't that some sort of an extremist far-left group/liberal?"

Sometimes I can't keep the laughing inside.

The Bush-lovers are clueless - period. Any time someone says "Bush is a great leader" or "Bush is the best president we've ever had," you can pretty much disregard everything else they say. It's one thing to prefer Bush over a Democrat, but when you look the man's life, it is basically comprised of little more than business failures, mediocre academic performances, less-than-average military service, and misguided executive decisions. Hell, he even has alcohol addiction, DUI convictions, alleged hardcore drug abuse, and a couple of loser children to show off. If someone thinks this man is in any way "great," they're either completely oblivious or they're trying to pull your chain.

[Adam D]

Originally posted by Ryan
The Bush-lovers are clueless - period. Any time someone says "Bush is a great leader" or "Bush is the best president we've ever had," you can pretty much disregard everything else they say. It's one thing to prefer Bush over a Democrat, but when you look the man's life, it is basically comprised of little more than business failures, mediocre academic performances, less-than-average military service, and misguided executive decisions. Hell, he even has alcohol addiction, DUI convictions, alleged hardcore drug abuse, and a couple of loser children to show off. If someone thinks this man is in any way "great," they're either completely oblivious or they're trying to pull your chain.

8 times out of 10 they have no idea why they support him.

1 of the remaining two really don't know why they believe the issues they support him on.

The remaining one is like bfp.

[DJPePe]

Originally posted by xiannaix What in particular did you find so abhorrent about the Reagan administration?

The economic recovery? The defeat of our cold war enemy? His challenges to the old hard-line regimes of eastern europe that resulted in the establishment of democratic governments in those nation for the first time in a generation?

What economic recovery do you speak of?

The defeat of the Soviet Union had NOTHING to do with Reagan first of all. He just happened to be at the right place at the right time. The fall of the Soviet Union had to do more with the ever-increasing defense spending and their humuliating defeat in Afghanistan more than Reagan's actions.

The fact that he also lied about negotiating with terrorists, even though he personally vowed NOT to negotiate with them. Iran-Contra anyone?

Democratic they may be, but it's still riddled with crime and corruption sadly.

And where are these goosesteppers you speak of?

The ones who blindly support Bush just because they think it's the patriotic thing to do

You sound very much like a liberl indoctrinated "punk-ass" "retard." If you're going to cast a wide net of insult like that - give it some basis please - at least I could then disagree on the merits - but as it is - you said noting except for unfounded insults - congrats.

BTW, I'm not that liberal. I'm more center than left, thank you. Also, I noticed that you are quick to condemn liberals when they do that, but when conservatives do the same about calling liberals anti-American and cowards, you stay silent. Why the double standard?

Originally posted by Ryan
I looked through some of their member profiles, and some of these people I can kinda understand. I can understand 2nd Ammendment proponents. I completely get the people who want to cut federal spending and taxes. I can even listen to the religious folks who are sincerely driven by what they feel is a moral obligation to oppose abortion, even if I disagree with them. Then there's people like this guy:

http://www.bucknellconservatives.org.../waddell.shtml

This dude is a living argument for postpartum abortion.


On a different note, I love how some of these people state that they are libertarian conservatives and also members of the Republican party. I cannot for the life of me understand this. Let's see here,

1) Libertarians say "cut federal spending and taxes."
Republicans initiate and approve larger spending increases and entightlement programs than either Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton.

2) Libertarians says "leave the government out of abortion."
Republicans attempt to increase government regulation of abortion and would likely ban it if it weren't such a politically volatile issue.

3) Libertarians say "end the war on drugs."
Republicans say "let's increase spending to prosecute more drug users, put more of them in our jails, and keep them there longer - unless, of course, you're a fat, uneducated, arrogant hunk of lard who gets on the radio every day and tells us what we want to hear."

4) Libertarians say "the government should not interfere with a person's sexual freedom or pass any law limiting it."
Republicans say "let's keep the sodamy laws on the books and pass a Constitutional Ammendment to ban gay marriage from here to eternity.


I could go on, but you get the point. What is it that these people have in common with libertarians? Oh, I guess gun control. Are people really voting on that one issue?

I think the claim libertarian/conservative/republin for different definitions... there is no "conservative" party - it is more of a manner of thinking - much like there is no "liberal" party.

As for how they could be libertarian and conservative that makes a lot of sense - the confusion comes with people automatically assuming that "conservative" refers to social mores. Libertarian / Conservatives will tend to have very permissive ideas about what people may or may not do consensually in their own homes. Social conservatives will have a bit more to say about things like sex, drugs, gambling etc.

Anyway - the split on those issues for the Libertarian/Conservative Republican elements is not as great for many as it would be to suide with democrats. (entitlements, affirmative-action, gun conrtol are abhorent to Libertarians, Republicans and Conservatives - as a general rule and theose are darling issues to the Dems/Liberals)

Part of the problem though - is that GW sure doesn't look like any kind of conservative I'd recognize.