Help me understand this particualr music trend...i just dont get it

[djredeye]

OKAY...I'm all about something new, BUT...this stuff thats coming out which is basically an ultra familiar hook from some mainstream pop song with a ghetto house beat under it. Why are people freaking out over this stuff? I'm speaking for instance of this "Wait a minute Mr. Postman" thing and the stuff like that. I just dont get it, but apparently people love it. Its produced like ass, the vocal samples dont ever really make any since, the tracks go nowhere, and theres nothing to them. It actually puts me in a bad mood if i hear several of them in a row. What and why is this stuff?

[woodyrosen]

Originally Posted by djredeye

OKAY...I'm all about something new, BUT...this stuff thats coming out which is basically an ultra familiar hook from some mainstream pop song with a ghetto house beat under it. Why are people freaking out over this stuff? I'm speaking for instance of this "Wait a minute Mr. Postman" thing and the stuff like that. I just dont get it, but apparently people love it. Its produced like ass, the vocal samples dont ever really make any since, the tracks go nowhere, and theres nothing to them. It actually puts me in a bad mood if i hear several of them in a row. What and why is this stuff?

I hate that one you are talking about. The one that really kills me is this one I heard that was "I'm Rick James bitch" 34536345 times with a distorted kick drum under it. Its like they are cute and gimmicky for a few seconds, but that's all I personally want to hear.

*awaits vocal house haterz blowback*

[Roos]

I think it's just because they recognize the hooks. Who knows

[alvin]

Wouldn't it be a version of the Baltimore club sound? It goes along with the Ghetto House sound, underproduced raw tracks with vocal samples added for good measure.

[djredeye]

Originally Posted by alvin

Wouldn't it be a version of the Baltimore club sound? It goes along with the Ghetto House sound, underproduced raw tracks with vocal samples added for good measure.

yeah i was thinking thats what it was...dont they call it "Hard and B"? (instead of R&B) wow..i just cant do it man...its like having a really bad ear-ache to me. Ther's nothing pleasurable about it to me. There seems to be a lot of it surfacing.

[undergrowth]

sublime is a perfect example......they played instruments like shit when it comes down to it but there one of my favorite bands....why?


because of the vibe.


not saying what you speak of is good music but. thats the way it works sometimes

[Keith P]

Originally Posted by djredeye

yeah i was thinking thats what it was...dont they call it "Hard and B"? (instead of R&B) wow..i just cant do it man...its like having a really bad ear-ache to me. Ther's nothing pleasurable about it to me. There seems to be a lot of it surfacing.

Yeh its b-more. That Mr. Postman song is a classic from Dj Technics.

b-more is some of the simplest shit you can produce but still fun music imo

1.loop up some breaks and 808 claps
2.find a sample
3.chop it up and stretch it
4.put it 2gether

[alvin]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore_Club

[alvin]

http://www.baltimoreclubtracks.com/

[djredeye]

i was never a big fan of the ghetto house stuff, so i can see how this would have gone right by me for several years as it apparently has. I guess i thought it had come and gone, but am i wrong in thinking that its seeing a re-emergance? It seems like i'm starting to hear that sound a lot more, again, just with different samples. I had never heard that Postman thing until about a month or two ago, and since then i hear it all the time. And that write up Alvin posted....speaking about clubs that play that sound exclusively, and most of the tracks have beats sampled from the same two songs for the most part. I'd kill myself!! I can see how dropping one in every now and again would hype up a crowd... but all night , with the same sampled beats in every track?!?!?!? ew

[Keith P]

Originally Posted by djredeye

i was never a big fan of the ghetto house stuff, so i can see how this would have gone right by me for several years as it apparently has. I guess i thought it had come and gone, but am i wrong in thinking that its seeing a re-emergance? It seems like i'm starting to hear that sound a lot more, again, just with different samples. I had never heard that Postman thing until about a month or two ago, and since then i hear it all the time.

You definitely are man. The Love Ya rmx by Herve has that classic break used in it, that definitely has to be an influence from the popularity of b-more right now.

Technics has actually written some great shit. Some b-more tunes especially the classics are straight up housey as thats what b-more was to begin with.

You might like this...you might not. Check it out

http://www.turntablelab.com/assets/a...504/143099.ram

I'm not disagreeing that some of the music can be a bit laughable or even redundant but it can sure as hell be fun. I think thats essentially what it boils down to. People are just wanting to enjoy themselves so the music they're listening to can have a sense of humor.

[djredeye]

Originally Posted by Keith P

You definitely are man. The Love Ya rmx by Herve has that classic break used in it, that definitely has to be an influence from the popularity of b-more right now.

Technics has actually written some great shit. Some b-more tunes especially the classics are straight up housey as thats what b-more was to begin with.

You might like this...you might not. Check it out

http://www.turntablelab.com/assets/a...504/143099.ram

I'm not disagreeing that some of the music can be a bit laughable or even redundant but it can sure as hell be fun. I think thats essentially what it boils down to. People are just wanting to enjoy themselves so the music they're listening to can have a sense of humor.

THAT, I can handle..that was dope. i can work with that...but if there woulda been some repetitive vocal sample looped on top i woulda not been into it

[alvin]

Originally Posted by djredeye

i was never a big fan of the ghetto house stuff, so i can see how this would have gone right by me for several years as it apparently has. I guess i thought it had come and gone, but am i wrong in thinking that its seeing a re-emergance? It seems like i'm starting to hear that sound a lot more, again, just with different samples. I had never heard that Postman thing until about a month or two ago, and since then i hear it all the time. And that write up Alvin posted....speaking about clubs that play that sound exclusively, and most of the tracks have beats sampled from the same two songs for the most part. I'd kill myself!! I can see how dropping one in every now and again would hype up a crowd... but all night , with the same sampled beats in every track?!?!?!? ew

Like with any musical trend,the sound never really "died" or "fell off" it just morphed into something a little different than before. In Chicago they are calling it "Juke" music now and my 13 yr. old cousin is into it. A few years ago I was digging for music up in Gramaphone and saw that they had section dedicated to Dance Mania(even though the label has been defunct for quite a while) and asked my man Frank Q about it. He said that the music STILL SELLS and they get quite a few calls FROM OVERSEAS...particularly Paris and France.

I think the Ghetto House DJ's still tour over there. And remember when Daft Punk was first coming onto the scene their dj sets were extremely heavy on Dance Mania Ghetto House...they even name check the ghetto dj's on the track on their album "Teachers".

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/daftpunk/teachers.html

The sound has influenced the "tech house" scene also..remember the track "Ghetto Tears" that was big a while back (I played it Friday at Zubar)? And I believe you have played this also...

http://www.discogs.com/release/89955

Which was sampled from Dj Assault...

http://www.discogs.com/release/57260

Who in turn sampled the Robert Armani track "UP".

http://www.discogs.com/release/3392

And Robert Armani helped the Ghetto House dj's with their early productions...

So in essence you may have been a fan all along, but may not has realized it...

[SGT_Spew]

i thought it was called ghetto tech. dj funk rocks and so does dj assault.


but too me none of these tracks compare to "sex on the beach"

15 DJ Assault Sex On The Beach (4:16)
16 Belizbeha Inhibitions (Clear Horizons Mix) (3:08)
17 Maurizio 7 (2:59)


daft punk live at the bunker played stuff like this as well. where it was liked an old school funk song. when i was 18 i would geek out on this shit like crazy. sex on the beach was like my theme song.

[Tyler J]

this is what i dont understand... how come scottie can voice his opinion on a particular music genre... this shitty ghetto tech nonsense... yet when the getto tech thread was goin and I let it be known i thought it was absolute shit people came back at me bashing on minimal?... i just dont get it.