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Old 04-03-03, 07:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Where to begin?

For XMas, I got this little music program for my computer. It's not even as avanced as Music Generator2 for PS2. But despite that, I've made what I think are decent tracks. But there's so many things this program doesn't do, I've given up on it. Now I want something real. Not just a toy like this eJay program. So what should I get? What's the best of the best? What shoould I avoid? Lemme know how it's really done and where to begin
 
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Old 04-04-03, 02:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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any electribe product from korg.
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Old 04-04-03, 03:03 AM   #3 (permalink)
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my advice is go buy Reason and learn that.

then, in a couple of years, ask that question again.
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any electribe product from korg.
yes... avoid these religously.

yeah, reason is a great starting point to learning the basics of signal routing, subractive synthesis, sampling etc..
rebirth is a good starting point as well if you don't have the $200+ to fork over for reason.

calkwalk's new project5 is looking like a good well rounded software package right out of the box.

on the cheaper side (meaning less expensive not necessarily less quality) of the sequencing world (ones with VST anyway) there are:

fa-soft's N-track studio
FruityLoops
Magix music studio
muzys
synapse orion

on the most costly side there is:

steinberg Cubase SX
steinberg Nuendo
emagic Logic (discontinued for windows; RIP)
cakewalk Sonar 2


you should do some reading and find a sequencer/production environment that suits you/has features that you would need/use.

read about lots of stuff, get free VST instruments/effects etc..
here: www.kvr-vst.com
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yes... avoid these religously.
could u possibly be referring to their electrical problems? jus curious cuz i've made lots of beats with them.
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Old 04-04-03, 12:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The best advice I can offer to you is this:

If you're looking for mature, intelligent and informed discussion on the principles and techniques of music production (including spinning) go here:

www.futureproducers.com

No genre wars. No girlfriend swapping. No ravers who start fights and live at home with their parents. Just good advice from pros who know what's up. Newbies are welcome and encouraged to contribute and learn. It's all about the love of sound. And the best part is that it's not just electronic music producers. People from all styles of music and all walks of life are on there, so the potential for learning is almost limitless.

Use this board for goofing off at work. Use that one to learn yourself something.

Just my 0.02.

BTW Merritt is an assbag. Stay away from him at all costs.

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could u possibly be referring to their electrical problems? jus curious cuz i've made lots of beats with them.
yeah, you can make beats with them... but they are limited in the ways of sound design. plus for the money you would spend on one of those units, you could buy a full featured sequencer.

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If you're looking for mature, intelligent and informed discussion on the principles and techniques of music production (including spinning) go here:

www.futureproducers.com
yeah, i forgot to mention that place... i'm on there as well as a few other local peeps...
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Old 04-04-03, 03:31 PM   #8 (permalink)
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i'm on there too. woo
 
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Old 04-07-03, 06:08 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Awesome feedback guys .. I really appreciate it. I'm gonna check out that website for more info. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction
 
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haha miles!

i wasn't trying to be an assbag. i guess it came out that way. in essence- what i was saying is start small and learn... it's gonna take a while to get your bearings. look at everything as a learning process. that's also why my advice is get the Reason (and other Propellerheads stuff) cause it's a GREAT learning tool and once you see your limitations- you'll teach yourself how to overcome those. that's where the 'come back to us in a year' thing came from.
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I'd suggest more than anything find somebody local who produces the same genre(s) you want to and have them show you the ropes.
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my advice is go buy Reason and learn that.

then, in a couple of years, ask that question again.


wise words, young padawon.
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You could also just scratch the labels off of your own cds and then write your name over it. Then people will be really impressed when you tell them how long you've been producing.



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d00d quit calling me out like that.
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