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Old 10-05-03, 12:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What Countries Around the world do you think affect the World House music scene the m

What Countries Around the world do you think affect the World House music scene the most.


First of all, this is probably common sense. But i hope to understand it more.

This question is for me and others to understand more how music gets consummed by us djs and why.


Places LIke

US -

UK

Germany

France.

Does that rapp it up. Or are there others.


Are they the countries with the best Dj/producer talents that leed the way so to speak and what they do carries onto us. Do you think this is how it all works.

This will give you a huge edge if you know the major music distributors in each of these countries, u see whats comming out b4 they hit the shops. They set the trends, we follow em
 
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Old 10-05-03, 01:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I wouldn't forget Japan
 
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Old 10-05-03, 03:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think the "World House Scene" is a very general umbrella of music. Everyone is making house music but i think it differs geographically. I cant speak for all of house music but in my opinion deep house and what I consider traditional house (bumpin 4/4) are commin out of the US and UK..

Just my humble opinion.

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Old 10-06-03, 03:36 AM   #4 (permalink)
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all countries seem lead the way in some form of music
The US definitely leads the way in house then UK second. but I will have to point out that many European countires have distinctive sounds w/in the genre.
Trance...I would have to say the UK then the US.(altho I really don't know enuff about this...feel free to correct me)
Dn'B and Garage..UK all the way w/ the US having very large respectable scene for both genres. Brazil is bangin out some hot Dn'B tunes as well as Japan. Sweden, Germany, Japan and Russia have growing and well rounded garage scenes as well.
I would have to say that breaks is a US and UK focused genre as well. Most of the top producers for the genre I know hail from both countries.
Hip-Hop...obviously the US but it has become global. Countries from France to Japan to Thailand churn out quality hip-hop.
Dancehall...Jamaica of course, then the UK, then the US, Japan, Germany, and France.
Hard House...probaly the UK altho I don't follow this scene that much as well.
Techno...I'd have to have a techno dj get in on this. From my knowledge Detroit and Germany seem to fight for dominance over the genre.

altho it really doesn't matter what your geographical location is certain countries seem to cultivate some scenes better than others
 
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Old 10-06-03, 03:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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it's all about marketing.... and what catches on
at one particular time....


at one point, the french was the most important
country for house music...

at one point, the UK was....

often, the shift returns to Stateside...


so it really depends on the time or era
that you're talking about...


right now, i think all eyes are on the US...
which all the bumpity blip house that's
being made right now, that sound started
with the likes of Todd Edwards (also
considered the ultimate godfather of
2-step garage) and then taken to the
next level by people like Sneak and
Derrick Carter...


also, Toronto (and Canada in general)
currently has a spotlight on it, too, with
folks like Paranoid Jack and Jay Tripwire
and Ludikris throwin' down some choonz.


Some people would say SanFran and Dallas
(not to mention all the former Dallas folk
now residing in SanFran and/or SanD)
are also solid influences on house scene
right now...


so to answer that question....


House is a global phenomenon... and it
takes input on a global level to realize it....
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Originally posted by SoulFonik

Techno...I'd have to have a techno dj get in on this. From my knowledge Detroit and Germany seem to fight for dominance over the genre.
I think for the longest time, the Swedes had techno on
lockdown... and then the UK and American and German
producers that was making those "swedish sounding
beat tracks" was being released on Swedish labels,
which made it seem MORESO that Sweden had it on
lock.....

I think every genre gets a focal point in particualr country,
then it sort of expands and diffuses... it'll re-focus again
somewhere.... who knows where....

Adam Jay is a Stateside techno hardhitter right now... but
all his solid trafcks are usually releaed overseas, so it takes
away from the US'ness of his music and people forget that
he's from the States.
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Old 10-06-03, 06:30 PM   #7 (permalink)
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that sound started
with the likes of Todd Edwards (also
considered the ultimate godfather of
2-step garage)
Todd Edwards has never produced 2-step
He has always been a 4/4 producer and still is to this day

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and then taken to the
next level by people like Sneak and
Derrick Carter...
neither of which have never been garage producers
early 90's stateside house and garage was taken to the next level by Tuff Jam, Grant Nelson, Dem 2, Industry Standard, Banana Republic etc.
Tunes like Blues For You and Deep Inside are what shaped the sound for UKGarage and while this sound was taking over the UK US producers didn't find any distinction in it.
It was just house.

so there was no next level for garage in the states
it just stayed...house
 
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Old 10-06-03, 06:56 PM   #8 (permalink)
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besides the world capital, London theres also a kickin scene in cape town very reminiscent of a future Ibiza..greece was fun to , great woman and clubs

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Old 10-06-03, 07:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
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ibiza, spain

germany and the uk

willshire, england

southern france

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Old 10-06-03, 10:17 PM   #10 (permalink)
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i do have some countries i am sure that most of you have not put down.


isreal, india (has influence with the music they play in their culture, africa (any country pretty much), canada (most of you just dont think that canada has much of a edm scene.


that is all i have to say about that.

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Originally posted by SoulFonik
Todd Edwards has never produced 2-step
He has always been a 4/4 producer and still is to this day
I'm not gonna argue with this... ask ANY 2 step
producer of merit and they will tell you they
were influenced by T.Edward's productions.. the
swing feel, the weird use of samples...

listen to his early stuff from like 94, 95...

and you'll understand what I'm talking about...

a producer doesn't have to CREATE a style of
music to influence it... G.Clinton never made a
house track in his life, but his vision is a direct
influence on house and has been for the past
15 years....

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Originally posted by SoulFonik

neither of which have never been garage producers
early 90's stateside house and garage was taken to the next level by Tuff Jam, Grant Nelson, Dem 2, Industry Standard, Banana Republic etc.
Tunes like Blues For You and Deep Inside are what shaped the sound for UKGarage and while this sound was taking over the UK US producers didn't find any distinction in it.
It was just house.
again, i'll repeat what I said:

a producer doesn't have to CREATE a style of
music to influence it...



Instead of playing the vocal tunes favoured by clubs such as Ministry Of Sound and Garage City, the underground jocks tended to pick the b-sides and dub versions of US house and garage. Favoured dub plate artists included Masters At Work, Todd Terry, Kerri Chandler, MK, and especially Todd Edwards - whose unique way of vocal cut ‘n’ pasting and tough beats inspired many of the early British productions.

this is from http://www.dotmusic.com/specials/ukg...ukgarage_2.asp

which talks about the eearly days of uk garage that, along with
the need to re-invent speed garage, and the need to
reinvigorate teh uk jungle scene, all converged to help
create 2 step...

this isn't the only article that specifically mentions
Todd Edwards as a "godfather", of sorts, to 2 step.....

if you like, once i get to a DSL, i can find them... this should
do for now.
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and since you mentioned, MJ Cole...



"Todd Edwards started the whole UK Garage thing off without setting foot in the country. He was my biggest influence when I started making garage music."

Andy Lewis of Locked On said said

"This is the guy we were all listening to and getting ideas from way back in the early 90s. As far as I'm concerned he is still the daddy. "

And Matt Lamont said

"{Todd has} definitely been our influence, and everybody else's since 92/93. It was his drums that created a lot of what's going on today and what has been for the last seven or eight years.'"

so if they can see it....

this is from http://www.garagemusic.co.uk/toddedwards.html
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I'm not gonna argue with this... ask ANY 2 step
producer of merit and they will tell you they
were influenced by Todd. Edward's productions.. the
swing feel, the weird use of samples...

listen to his early stuff from like 94, 95...
I WILL argue w/ you on this.
I said before and I will say it again...Todd Edwards has NEVER produced a 2-step record.
When you refer to 2-step you are referring to a sub-genre of garage that uses a broken beat characterised by its trademark swing and shuffle.
hence the name 2-step
go listen to an Artfull Doger tune, Crazy Love, anything off of public demand, MJ Cole blah blah blah...
almost any producer from that era has produced 2-step.
SAVE Todd Edwards.
Todd Has ALWAYS produced 4/4 Garage
and I know what he's done and the way he shaped UKGarage...
maybe its why he's referred to as Todd "The God" Edwards?

Now I can give u the benefit of the doubt if u r making the mistake of referring to all Garage as 2-step
but if u r going to try and tell me Todd produces 2-step I'd have to say you've been smokin some shit

and I don't mean to be a dick mate
I don't need you to know who I am...
but I've been playing Garage ever since it began taking roots in this city.
I lived and breathed this shit for the past 4 yrs. of my life.
I'll set you up a 4 course a day, 8 hours a day, 5 days a week schedule to inform you where garage came from, where its been, and where its going.

and just to be safe u r welcome to come over and I will pull u out Todd tunes dating from the present back to 94 and you can tell me if any of those records sound like 2-step to you
better yet..come out to Crave and I'll play u a full set of Todd tunes

just for good measure
listen to the first cut off Todd's recent album and try to tell me that doesn't have a distinctive 4/4 beat

"I hear him"
http://www.theoneuk.co.uk/catalogue/ram/0006.ram

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