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Logic Theorist · 12-23-01, 08:12 PM

So I'm reading a lot of the review threads about last night, and I'm seeing a lot of people saying Swamp's set was wack. These are the same people who for the most part go off on how wonderful some local DJs are who are not anywhere near as skilled.

So here it is. Any monkey can stand behind turntables and beatmatch records. Those same monkeys can order tunes online. What Swamp did (and other turntablists do) is creating music with a turntable. I saw him make a beat several times with a record, juggle (rearrange a beat with 2 copies of the same record), produce entire guitar lines out of one guitar note on a record (including "no sleep till brooklyn"), flip a record over mid-scratch and start scratching on the other side WITHOUT MISSING A BEAT, creat a beat by lifting and dropping the needle on certain parts of the record, and the list goes on. If I practiced 5-10 years I might just begin to be able to do what he did last night.

I know that this post will have no effect on most of you, you'll continue to say "wack" and worship DJ Irene, but hey, if one person understands and respects what turntablism is mebbe I've made a difference. I'm gonna go get back on my decks now and practice my juggling (and eat my wheaties).

-Phill

P.S. wanna learn more? www.turntablism.com www.asisphonics.com

12-23-01, 08:18 PM

Well, I totally agree. I loved swamp's set. it was phat. But i appreciate the talent that scratching is. A lot of people listen to the music overall. I do that as well. But i also analyze every tactic the DJ uses to output the sounds. So, while, In mine and yours (and a couple other people) eyes, it was dope - people are entitled to their opinion. If they don't want to appreciate what the DJ is DOING, but they just want to appreciate what they are LISTENING to, thats their deal.
Just my $.02
-Michael
(Harsh Reality Crew)

Xonya · 12-23-01, 08:26 PM

i totally agree dj swamp was a motherfucking badass......

that shit takes skill

djork · 12-23-01, 08:28 PM

is this thread the love child of our conversation last night...i am not doubting his skill. i mean, he did a VW commercial. *averts eyes* i think his record selection was terrible, i think with the right music he could possibly get my seal of approval. oh, and whoever the guest dj was that spun with squirt and chris; that fool was amazing! the way he slapped the records to get that twangy effect, i stopped dancing and just gazed in awe for a moment. i had fun.

Logic Theorist · 12-23-01, 08:29 PM

That was BK that stepped up with Squirt and Phooka. BK is a local turntablist who somehow never makes it onto the draves list of "favorite DJs" and again this boggles me.

djork · 12-23-01, 08:42 PM

well after his performance last night, he gets a gold star in my book.

12-23-01, 08:45 PM

I thought swamp was pretty fucking badass!!

Jolen Essex threw it down pretty hard as well!!!

Joshua Ryan, pretty good.

Hardkiss's set was a bit lacking.

Saratonin Ripped it up. And although I really don't like Irene, I would still have to admit that she threw it down pretty hard.

Dribbles · 12-23-01, 08:52 PM

Swamp kicked ass last night and if you ask me he got the crowd ready for IRene. IF it wasn't for Swamp doing what he did then I don't think the crowd would had been jumping like they did for her set. I was freestyling to his beats while breakin in the circle. I don't like it when people get on the bandwagon for a popular DJ. Don't say he was wack what he did was different.

KarlosfrmtheBlock · 12-23-01, 09:01 PM

All I'm gunna say is

SWAMP IS ONE KRAZZZIE FOOO!!!

I Love that Foo Now, He busted out with Cat Scratch Fever and not to mention that lil bit of Nirvana he threw in there that had

the WHOLE crowd singing to it, THAT NIGGA IS DA BOMB! Then when he started to sing/rap or whatever I thought I was

listening to sum wicked ICP shyt man! I'll go see that man ANY time he comes into Texas!

Thas all I have to say...

Love and I am,
Karlos

Adam D · 12-23-01, 09:39 PM

Since I'm the one who deemed his set wack, I suppose I should clarify my opinion. What made me say that was not his djing so much as his on the mic action (whether you want to classify it as singing or rap, I'll leave that up to you). I didn't stay very long after he started in on that, so I can't really say one or way or another as to what happened after that. Don't get me wrong, he's a good dj and a very skilled turntablist.

However, turntablism, well, gets less impressive every time I hear it/see it. Maybe it's because all too many people think scratching is so badass, that I just don't care to hear it. Or maybe it's just the actual practice of turntablism. I suppose I really don't mind a little bit of it, or say watching somebody do it, but it gets to a point that it's ad nauseum with me personally. Especially when I'm in the mood to dance rather than stand around watching somebody spin. I respect the practice, I just disn't care to hear a set full of turntablism and wack mic action.

But I don't worship Irene.

12-24-01, 01:45 AM

The only question you got to ask yourself is did he put on a good show? hell yeah dj swamp fucking rocks.

Melodik_J

KarlosfrmtheBlock · 12-24-01, 01:50 AM

Hell ya he put on a good show! Nuff Said! And anyone who says different will get a kick in the stuff!

LilMissBliss · 12-24-01, 04:26 PM

It blew my mind how great he was if you dont think hes fuckin phat you gotta problem....I mean fuck yeah when he threw down some record and then scratched chariots of fire i dont know fuckin what if you didnt think that was talented....anyone talking shit i would really like to see you try.....

then when he lit the record on fire that what so fuckin phat....

12-24-01, 11:01 PM

Hells yeah, Swamp was kick ass! I would love to see him again. He spun so many good songs, and his scratchin, HOLY SHIT!!! Yes, it would be safe to assume that I had a good time :-D

Adam D · 12-25-01, 02:52 AM

well, like I said, I don't know what happened after I left his set....it may have gotten better, I really can't say.

12-23-01, 08:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
Logic Theorist Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 286	Turntablism/DJing/skill (swamp) So I'm reading a lot of the review threads about last night, and I'm seeing a lot of people saying Swamp's set was wack. These are the same people who for the most part go off on how wonderful some local DJs are who are not anywhere near as skilled. So here it is. Any monkey can stand behind turntables and beatmatch records. Those same monkeys can order tunes online. What Swamp did (and other turntablists do) is creating music with a turntable. I saw him make a beat several times with a record, juggle (rearrange a beat with 2 copies of the same record), produce entire guitar lines out of one guitar note on a record (including "no sleep till brooklyn"), flip a record over mid-scratch and start scratching on the other side WITHOUT MISSING A BEAT, creat a beat by lifting and dropping the needle on certain parts of the record, and the list goes on. If I practiced 5-10 years I might just begin to be able to do what he did last night. I know that this post will have no effect on most of you, you'll continue to say "wack" and worship DJ Irene, but hey, if one person understands and respects what turntablism is mebbe I've made a difference. I'm gonna go get back on my decks now and practice my juggling (and eat my wheaties). -Phill P.S. wanna learn more? www.turntablism.com www.asisphonics.com

12-23-01, 08:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
Xonya Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Allen,Texas Posts: 122	i agree i totally agree dj swamp was a motherfucking badass...... that shit takes skill

12-23-01, 08:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
djork Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: denton, tx Posts: 459	is this thread the love child of our conversation last night...i am not doubting his skill. i mean, he did a VW commercial. averts eyes i think his record selection was terrible, i think with the right music he could possibly get my seal of approval. oh, and whoever the guest dj was that spun with squirt and chris; that fool was amazing! the way he slapped the records to get that twangy effect, i stopped dancing and just gazed in awe for a moment. i had fun. __________________ Covert Operations Scientia Recordings ____ President of the Association of CoonAss Dravers -END OF LINE

12-23-01, 08:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
djork Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: denton, tx Posts: 459	well after his performance last night, he gets a gold star in my book. __________________ Covert Operations Scientia Recordings ____ President of the Association of CoonAss Dravers -END OF LINE

12-23-01, 08:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dribbles Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Carrollton Posts: 1,355	Swamp kicked ass last night and if you ask me he got the crowd ready for IRene. IF it wasn't for Swamp doing what he did then I don't think the crowd would had been jumping like they did for her set. I was freestyling to his beats while breakin in the circle. I don't like it when people get on the bandwagon for a popular DJ. Don't say he was wack what he did was different. __________________ defyen http://www.empowerdance.com/ I am teaching hip hop and breakdance classes in Frisco. You can call for a free class by going to the site above. Friday ages (5-12) breakdance 5:30pm-6:30pm Hip hop 6:30pm-7:30pm Tuesday (13-up) breakdance 7:00pm-8pm Hip hop 8:00pm-9:00pm

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12-23-01, 08:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
HarshReality Guest Posts: n/a	Well, I totally agree. I loved swamp's set. it was phat. But i appreciate the talent that scratching is. A lot of people listen to the music overall. I do that as well. But i also analyze every tactic the DJ uses to output the sounds. So, while, In mine and yours (and a couple other people) eyes, it was dope - people are entitled to their opinion. If they don't want to appreciate what the DJ is DOING, but they just want to appreciate what they are LISTENING to, thats their deal. Just my $.02 -Michael (Harsh Reality Crew)

12-23-01, 08:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
Logic Theorist Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 286	That was BK that stepped up with Squirt and Phooka. BK is a local turntablist who somehow never makes it onto the draves list of "favorite DJs" and again this boggles me.

12-23-01, 08:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
DJ benwa Guest Posts: n/a	I thought swamp was pretty fucking badass!! Jolen Essex threw it down pretty hard as well!!! Joshua Ryan, pretty good. Hardkiss's set was a bit lacking. Saratonin Ripped it up. And although I really don't like Irene, I would still have to admit that she threw it down pretty hard.

12-23-01, 09:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
KarlosfrmtheBlock Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Oak Cliff Posts: 891	All I'm gunna say is SWAMP IS ONE KRAZZZIE FOOO!!! I Love that Foo Now, He busted out with Cat Scratch Fever and not to mention that lil bit of Nirvana he threw in there that had the WHOLE crowd singing to it, THAT NIGGA IS DA BOMB! Then when he started to sing/rap or whatever I thought I was listening to sum wicked ICP shyt man! I'll go see that man ANY time he comes into Texas! Thas all I have to say... Love and I am, Karlos

12-23-01, 09:39 PM	#10 (permalink)
Adam D Feline Leukemia Survivor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Law School Posts: 7,750	Since I'm the one who deemed his set wack, I suppose I should clarify my opinion. What made me say that was not his djing so much as his on the mic action (whether you want to classify it as singing or rap, I'll leave that up to you). I didn't stay very long after he started in on that, so I can't really say one or way or another as to what happened after that. Don't get me wrong, he's a good dj and a very skilled turntablist. However, turntablism, well, gets less impressive every time I hear it/see it. Maybe it's because all too many people think scratching is so badass, that I just don't care to hear it. Or maybe it's just the actual practice of turntablism. I suppose I really don't mind a little bit of it, or say watching somebody do it, but it gets to a point that it's ad nauseum with me personally. Especially when I'm in the mood to dance rather than stand around watching somebody spin. I respect the practice, I just disn't care to hear a set full of turntablism and wack mic action. But I don't worship Irene. __________________ This is my signature.

12-24-01, 01:45 AM	#11 (permalink)
Melodik_J Guest Posts: n/a	The only question you got to ask yourself is did he put on a good show? hell yeah dj swamp fucking rocks. Melodik_J

12-24-01, 01:50 AM	#12 (permalink)
KarlosfrmtheBlock Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Oak Cliff Posts: 891	Hell ya he put on a good show! Nuff Said! And anyone who says different will get a kick in the stuff!

12-24-01, 04:26 PM	#13 (permalink)
LilMissBliss Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Addison Posts: 61	dj swamp It blew my mind how great he was if you dont think hes fuckin phat you gotta problem....I mean fuck yeah when he threw down some record and then scratched chariots of fire i dont know fuckin what if you didnt think that was talented....anyone talking shit i would really like to see you try..... then when he lit the record on fire that what so fuckin phat.... __________________ ~No parking on the dance floor~

12-24-01, 11:01 PM	#14 (permalink)
L1tl3gurl Guest Posts: n/a	Hells yeah, Swamp was kick ass! I would love to see him again. He spun so many good songs, and his scratchin, HOLY SHIT!!! Yes, it would be safe to assume that I had a good time :-D

12-25-01, 02:52 AM	#15 (permalink)
Adam D Feline Leukemia Survivor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Law School Posts: 7,750	well, like I said, I don't know what happened after I left his set....it may have gotten better, I really can't say. __________________ This is my signature.

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