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sepania · 12-12-07, 11:26 AM

So many people call actors and artists sellouts when their music is featured in a commercial or they plug a product.

I think that someone giving the rights to their music for use in a commercial is simply cashing in. Musicians make music as their job - to get paid. Also, when an artists plugs a product, company or cause that they personally believe in (or it's at least believable that they could be affiliated with it) then that is just them getting paid for something they already do (cashing in). For instance, when Tiger Woods plugs Nike or so-and-so newbie artist lets Old Navy use their song in a sweater commercial - that is ok by me.

However, when Gwen Stefani attempts to draw a connection between Hewlit-Packard and creativity or Beyonce wants to upgrade me to Direct TV so much that she makes a stupid cheesy commercial out of it, I think that is selling out. They're strictly doing that for the money and/or to promote themselves. They're not using any of their talent or skill, hence they're just selling the product on the fact that they're famous or hot and don't necessarily even care about what they're selling.

So, I've come to realize that there is a fine line between cashing in and selling out. What do you think the distinction is?

david austin · 12-12-07, 11:29 AM

:beatsdeadhorse:

elNastioBananaHando · 12-12-07, 11:29 AM

Ya damn right
I done sold out before
And re-caught the same night
Straight hopped the next flight
Too Icey for sunlight
Dunkin' without Sprite

david austin · 12-12-07, 11:32 AM

this is ddm... anything remotely seen as doing something for a dollar is selling out

this is ddm... full of dollar menunaires

PETA · 12-12-07, 11:33 AM

how can one fault a person for earning a living?

sepania · 12-12-07, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by david austin

this is ddm... anything remotely seen as doing something for a dollar is selling out

this is ddm... full of dollar menunaires

Since you apparently have thoughts on the subject, why not interject those instead of pointless sarcastic banter?

Oh wait... this is DDM.

Funkenstein · 12-12-07, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by david austin

dollar menunaires

Excellent statement.

McDonald's owes me rights. Bryant and I started the One Dollar Baller Club damn near a year ago.

zymote · 12-12-07, 11:35 AM

The whole selling out thing is just jealousy from the less talented and hard working. If I could make a million bucks shilling for Pepsi, you'd be seeing me on TV right now.

molecule · 12-12-07, 11:36 AM

i write music for commercials everyday, sold out years ago

reddaisy6 · 12-12-07, 11:36 AM

The other day I heard a Badly Drawn Boy song on a Starbucks commercial. That's cool. Devendra Banhart put the song 'Little Boys' on his last album specifically so Starbucks wouldn't carry it. That's cool too.

I don't really care either way. I'm not gonna stop liking an artist simply because they sold their song rights to be used in a commercial. They have whole websites dedicated to finding out what song/artist was on a commercial. I'm sure artists really like that because it gives people a chance to be exposed to more of said artists music.

And besides...for all we know they could be sending that "selling out" $$$ to charity.

david austin · 12-12-07, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by xian

how can one fault a person for earning a living?

cause they arent doing it for the love or the art of their trade.

damn foo.

oh... and because usually those 'ones' only wish it would roll in that easy lol

molecule · 12-12-07, 11:39 AM

it is increasingly more challenging for artists to make a living with their music. licensing your music and writing for tv and film is one rare way artists can be financially successful doing what they love.

PETA · 12-12-07, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by reddaisy6

The other day I heard a Badly Drawn Boy song on a Starbucks commercial. That's cool. Devendra Banhart put the song 'Little Boys' on his last album specifically so Starbucks wouldn't carry it. That's cool too.

I don't really care either way. I'm not gonna stop liking an artist simply because they sold their song rights to be used in a commercial. And besides...for all we know they could be sending that "selling out" $$$ to charity.

The fact is that record labels are using television as a method of marketing new musicians... shows like Grey's Anotomy, iPod commercials, Target commercials etc etc...

Funkenstein · 12-12-07, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sepania

Oh wait... this is DDM.

Hello and welcome to the party, mam'selle.

sepania · 12-12-07, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by xian

The fact is that record labels are using television as a method of marketing new musicians... shows like Grey's Anotomy, iPod commercials, Target commercials etc etc...

Definitely. I've noticed that a lot lately. I'm sure it's been happening for years, but I've just started to really notice it.

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molecule Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,350	i write music for commercials everyday, sold out years ago __________________ DETOUR - every wednesday at the Cavern vinyl digital

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reddaisy6 FUCK YOU PAY ME! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Slothville Posts: 12,897	The other day I heard a Badly Drawn Boy song on a Starbucks commercial. That's cool. Devendra Banhart put the song 'Little Boys' on his last album specifically so Starbucks wouldn't carry it. That's cool too. I don't really care either way. I'm not gonna stop liking an artist simply because they sold their song rights to be used in a commercial. They have whole websites dedicated to finding out what song/artist was on a commercial. I'm sure artists really like that because it gives people a chance to be exposed to more of said artists music. And besides...for all we know they could be sending that "selling out" $$$ to charity. __________________ ((((((Stacey))))))) http://mermusique.blogspot.com/ *"ARE YOU A BUG BILL MURRAY?!”*

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PETA an apparition Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 38,627	how can one fault a person for earning a living?

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molecule Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,350	it is increasingly more challenging for artists to make a living with their music. licensing your music and writing for tv and film is one rare way artists can be financially successful doing what they love. __________________ DETOUR - every wednesday at the Cavern vinyl digital

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