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Old 01-03-08, 10:48 PM   #16 (permalink)
 
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who cares if he's Muslim or not? That doesn't prevent someone from being President.

but then again, I'm not voting for Huckabee because of his religious nonsense... so I shouldn't get too upset that a moron like madbreaker doesn't want to vote for someone because they are supposedly Muslim.
sorry you feel i am a moron
Its not just because he is supposedly a muslim it is other issues such as the whole hand over the heart and patriotism.

never said whom i am voting for every canditate has their own ups and downs, as far as the above mentioned religous views he just tryin to put the freedom of religous expression back into our society as far as the pledge of alligance in school and not banning prayer for those who wish to do so regaurdless of which faith it is.

nothing wrong with freedom of beliefs just saying its a christian country thus we should have someone in office that is and always been a chrstian .

*sarcasm* - its like joining the mafia if we cant trace your roots of you and your family all the way to the beginning then there is no joining you can
ever be *made* -- i.e if you arent christian and your parents are christian and your parents parents and so forth you can always be conected* govenor , mayor , senetor or in congress just not president *made*

but like i stated my .02 Im not saying you are wrong for beliving the way you do just inputting my opinion. oh wait i forgo this is the internet no one is ever right except the one typing at the exact moment and in an instance they are wrong.
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Old 01-03-08, 11:56 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Old 01-04-08, 12:13 AM   #18 (permalink)
 
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I can't wait to have a black president. OBAMA FOR THE WIN

I still hate oprah though
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and Hilary clinton?
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Old 01-04-08, 12:29 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Old 01-04-08, 12:37 AM   #21 (permalink)
 
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Glad to see people want "muslim" in office , oh and dont forget he has NEVER once covered his heart when the american anythm has played, and has openly stated he wont take his presidential vows on a bible he wants to do it on the quran,
once a muslim always a muslim easy to say you are baptist to have the public look at you differently

yeah woopdity flippin do , guess the art of war is true keep your friends close and your ENEMIEs CLOSER.
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Regardless of where Obama or any of the other candidates hold their spirituality.....
I'd rather have a proud Muslim in office than someone who might say they are Christian and not live by it.
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Was this just for the state of Iowa?
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To whom ever wins the US presidency

You better be good because by 2010 aliens will show themselves on earth
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nothing wrong with freedom of beliefs just saying its a christian country thus we should have someone in office that is and always been a chrstian .

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Man. Fuck you dude. You are a dumb shit. You and your christian propraganda can get bent.
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Was this just for the state of Iowa?
lol

Do you not know what a caucus is? We need to get Rufus in here to post a wiki article.
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*you opened this can of worms*

Glad to see people want "muslim" in office , oh and dont forget he has NEVER once covered his heart when the american anythm has played, and has openly stated he wont take his presidential vows on a bible he wants to do it on the quran,
once a muslim always a muslim easy to say you are baptist to have the public look at you differently

yeah woopdity flippin do , guess the art of war is true keep your friends close and your ENEMIEs CLOSER.

Whichever mad neuroscientist that was in the middle of an operation to replace your brain with bubble wrap really ought to come back from crazy break to finish the job. Barrack Obama, like Malcolm X and Muhammad Ali, is a member of the Nation of Islam, a Black American denomination having next to nothing to do with any Middle Eastern culture. Though it shouldn't scrape me with any surprise if your prejudice extends to black people as well.
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Obama Barrack, like Malcolm X and Muhammad Ali, is a member of the Nation of Islam, a Black American denomination having next to nothing to do with any Middle Eastern culture.
Source? I've read nothing that says that, only that he spent a couple of years at a Muslim school as a child and that his father, who left when he was 2 years old, was a Muslim. Everything I've read said that he never practiced the religion. Well, everything I've read from a reputable source.
 
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Well I don't know what religion Obama is but I do know that the Nation of Islam is a cult of Islam... a cult consisting almost entirely of African-Americans. So yes, it has the same basis in Islam practiced in the Middle East but there are differences which makes it a cult.
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Well I don't know what religion Obama is but I do know that the Nation of Islam is a cult of Islam... a cult consisting almost entirely of African-Americans. So yes, it has the same basis in Islam practiced in the Middle East but there are differences which makes it a cult.
Either way, I've never stumbled across anything that states he's a member of it or any other Muslim group. He has ties because of his family, but from what he and others have said, he didn't practice any religion at all until he converted to Christianity almost 20 years ago. I think it's going to be really sad if his father's religion becomes the main focus of the campaign. Hopefully people like Madbreaker are in the minority and people will look into the issue themselves before jumping on the "ZOMG HE"S A TERRORIST!!!!!!!" bandwagon. Then again, the people most likely to swallow the rhetoric hook, line, and sinker are probably the least likely to vote anyway.

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Well, I was going to toss up a Wiki source, as that's where I'd initially read that, but I just checked and found nothing, so I'll just leave my foot in my mouth for this. Good thing I didn't post that where it would actually matter.

But the point I was gearing towards still stands: a politician whose religious faith might vaguely or even explicitly reside in Islam does not a sponsor of terrorism necessarily make. That and madbreaker's skull is filled with packing materials.
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