hey all you Botox freaks

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I like to top off my ritas with a shot of Botox. Makes my entire face go numb lol.

[Yurrfaise]

Originally Posted by Pits N' Tits

I am getting that done under my eyes That and laser resurfacing on my face...I don't give a fuck if people say I shouldn't, if it will make me feel more self-confident and happier about the way I look then oh fucking well, it's my face.

I think it's great that you're getting it done if that's what you wanna do. In my opinion stress is the number one killer and cause of body deterioration. If you're happier about the way you look and have more self confidence then that's a whole hell of a lot less stress! I think guys need to go through the criticism and judgment that women go through everyday. Maybe they would see things differently.

[Cock Puncher]

Originally Posted by clay donkey

Women should just get boob jobs instead of botox; because, no one is going to look at your wrinkly old face if you have huge knockers.

it's like you're in my head

[cyberina]

Originally Posted by Roos

That's so weird that you bring that up. A really good friend of mine in Houston had this happen. One day, his hands just started getting tighter. It got to the point that he couldn't even hold a mic. He's a guitarist and piano player too. Music is his life. I can't even begin to tell you the hurt in his eyes when the doctors told him they had no cure or reason for it. I don't think the Botox remedy was known or prevalent at the time. He sold off all his gear and pretty much went into a big state of depression. It ended up contributing to the demise of his marriage as well. But miraculously, he started to get all of his control back. Eventually, the problem just went away without any meds or therapy. He is now playing weekly in Houston in a band called Jerk Store.

The problem isn't all that uncommon among professional musicians, though until very recently its remained kind of shrouded in secrecy considering the career disabling nature of the condition.

I learned of the Botox treatment from Dr. Oliver Sach's new book (the neurologist that the movie "Awakenings" was about, and a HUGE proponent of music therapy)

The book is called Musicophilia, and there's a whole chapter on musician's dystonia.

Specifically on botox, it says:
Introduced in the late 80s, one form of botulinum toxin, which in large doses causes paralysis, had been used in tiny doses to control various conditions in which muscles are so tense, or in such spasm, that they can hardly be moved. Mark Hallett and his group were pioneers in the experimental use of Botox to treat musician's dystonia, and they found that small, carefully placed injections might allow a level of muscular relaxation. Such injections have enabled some musicians to resume playing their instruments.
Botox does not remove the underlying neural and perhaps genetic disposition to dystonia, and it maybe unwise or provocative to attempt a return to performance. A few years ago, musicians might go for years without a proper diagnosis or treatment, but thanks to a group formed in 2000 called Musicians with Dystonia, the situation has been transformed. Neurologists are much more aware of musician's dystonia, as are musicians themselves.

Later it speaks of a particular pianist who tried Botox treatments. He apparently had one hand so clenched that he could not open it and his arm was rock solid with constantly constricted muscles. Botox apparently wasn't enough for him by itself, so he combined it with Rolfing, which has worked on the long term for him. He returned to professional performance in 96, and had a solo recital at Carnegie Hall in 2003.

Finally, it said Botox treatments do not always work; the dose must be minutely calibrated or it will weaken the muscles too much, and it must be repeated every few months.

[Alexis Gold]

A middle aged woman had a heart attack and was taken to the
hospital. While on the operating table, she had a near death experience.
Seeing God, she asked," Is my time up?" God said,
"No, you have another 43 years, 2 months and 8 days to live.
"Upon recovery, the woman decided to stay in the hospital and have a
face-lift, brow lift, lip enhancement, boob job, liposuction, and a
tummy tuck. After her last operation, she was released from the
hospital. While crossing the street on her way home, she was hit and
killed by a car. Arriving in front of God, She demanded, "I thought you
said I had another 40 years? Why didn't you pull me out of
The path of the car?" God replied, "Giiirrrlllllll, I didn't even
recognize you."


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that was a sad story to hear about yr friend Roos. Good ending now that he is playing again.

[Tortures Dionysos]

Originally Posted by Pits N' Tits

Restylane and Botox are not just used to make people look better, they are used for a number of other reasons that are completely medical and help people with many different conditions live a normal life, as pain free as possible. They are not always used just to make a woman look younger.

My Grandmother got Botox shots in her eye muscles for years. The muscles that make your eyes blink would spasm in her eyes... so it hard for her to see. The botox shots helped those muscles from spasming (? spelling).

As for me, if I had the money... I would get botox shots for my forehead and in between my eyes. I have a very expressive face which has lead to lots of wrinkles on my forehead. I aslo have this horrible wrinkle between my eyes due to pulling those muscles together.

I got botox once... it was expensive... but damn that wrinkle between my eyes looked much better.

I think a little bit of work to reduce wrinkles... here and there isn't bad. But when people go over the top, yes... that's bad.

Originally Posted by Karen

My Grandmother got Botox shots in her eye muscles for years. The muscles that make your eyes blink would spasm in her eyes... so it hard for her to see. The botox shots helped those muscles from spasming (? spelling).

As for me, if I had the money... I would get botox shots for my forehead and in between my eyes. I have a very expressive face which has lead to lots of wrinkles on my forehead. I aslo have this horrible wrinkle between my eyes due to pulling those muscles together.

I got botox once... it was expensive... but damn that wrinkle between my eyes looked much better.

I think a little bit of work to reduce wrinkles... here and there isn't bad. But when people go over the top, yes... that's bad.

Ya I just want it under my eyes where my sinus problems have given me hollow eyes. If I don’t have a decent tan I look like I have cancer or something, especially when I haven't been getting a ton of sleep like recently. Not even a ton of concelour hides it and I am tired of looking like shit. It bothers me and I want it fixed, especially since (cross my fingers) my sinus issues should be fixed after surgery in May. It would be a nice follow up.