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Jean-Luc Dickhard · 02-09-08, 05:38 PM

haha, they aren't required to do anything except sell the advertised equipment complete

umalak_ · 02-09-08, 06:06 PM

uh yes they are. they can still put XP on the machines even though all the floor models have Vista on them.

if you ask them to put XP on them then they can do so. if some store tells you no then you tell them to fuck off and go elsewhere.

Jean-Luc Dickhard · 02-09-08, 06:12 PM

but what you stated is that they are required. they don't have to do that.

F.N.A. · 02-09-08, 06:15 PM

It can indeed mess with your wireless drivers. I found this out the hard way.

MC Twinkie · 02-09-08, 10:41 PM

Pick a laptop you want, and then before you buy it see if you can download the XP drivers from the website. IF you can, buy it. IF not, then dont buy.

Or, you could just get a 20$ wifi USB or pcmica card.

Jean-Luc Dickhard · 07-23-08, 10:36 PM

foxfire?

LekBrother · 07-23-08, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matias

bro I still use me

This made me laugh so hard I almost fell out of my chair...

Damnsammit · 07-24-08, 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean-Luc Dickhard

foxfire?

Charles, dude, just buy a Mac so I can be jealous of you.

Tymeless · 07-24-08, 06:10 AM

as a computer technician who used to work for Fry's, I know for a fact it all depended on the laptop you were trying to downgrade. We had sales people all the time promise that we could downgrade the laptop to xp for the simple cost of the operating system.

Time and Time again, we ran into the problem of not finding all the drivers for the components in the laptop. I got SOME of them to take the downgrade but that was only after trial and error with 3rd party drivers and generic issues. It caused conflicts with other drivers and never really functioned properly. The laptops were unstable as hell, period.

The only computer I was able to sucessfully install XP on that still had vista was an older Sony Viao, but it only took XP because it was an older computer with older xp compatible components...

Oh, and a store does not HAVE to downgrade you. And you can go ahead and find another place that says they will. But when you have to go back and get it fixed time after time. You will wish you had just listened to the first store in the first place.

Do what I did, Buy a Macbook

Gomer · 07-24-08, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Meh

I wouldn't guarantee as maybe something has changed, but I do find it quite unlikely that manufacturers aren't still making drivers for their new hardware for XP

This is what I thought before I went out and bought a new laptop w/o doing my homework. Brought it home, formatted, installed xp, and low and behold half of the hardware didn't work. Went searching the net for the drivers only to find out manufacturers are indeed not making hardward drivers for devices on machines that come pre-installed with vista. It's pretty big bullshit if you ask me.

I eventually got everything working with other models drivers and such, but it was a pain in the anus and took me a week to get everything configured and working. It would've been worth my time to spend the extra 200 bucks on a machine pre-loaded with xp.

Sir Meh · 07-24-08, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gomer

This is what I thought before I went out and bought a new laptop w/o doing my homework. Brought it home, formatted, installed xp, and low and behold half of the hardware didn't work. Went searching the net for the drivers only to find out manufacturers are indeed not making hardward drivers for devices on machines that come pre-installed with vista. It's pretty big bullshit if you ask me.

I eventually got everything working with other models drivers and such, but it was a pain in the anus and took me a week to get everything configured and working. It would've been worth my time to spend the extra 200 bucks on a machine pre-loaded with xp.

yeah, that is some BS

Jean-Luc Dickhard · 07-24-08, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tymeless

as a computer technician who used to work for Fry's, I know for a fact it all depended on the laptop you were trying to downgrade. We had sales people all the time promise that we could downgrade the laptop to xp for the simple cost of the operating system.

Time and Time again, we ran into the problem of not finding all the drivers for the components in the laptop. I got SOME of them to take the downgrade but that was only after trial and error with 3rd party drivers and generic issues. It caused conflicts with other drivers and never really functioned properly. The laptops were unstable as hell, period.

The only computer I was able to sucessfully install XP on that still had vista was an older Sony Viao, but it only took XP because it was an older computer with older xp compatible components...

Oh, and a store does not HAVE to downgrade you. And you can go ahead and find another place that says they will. But when you have to go back and get it fixed time after time. You will wish you had just listened to the first store in the first place.

Do what I did, Buy a Macbook

See?

Damnsammit · 07-24-08, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean-Luc Dickhard

See?

Don't listen to him.

Matias has been using computers for like 5 years so he knows whats REALLLY up!

Jean-Luc Dickhard · 07-24-08, 08:19 AM

Brah, don't even play me like that.

Tymeless · 07-24-08, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damnsammit

Don't listen to him.

Matias has been using computers for like 5 years so he knows whats REALLLY up!

02-09-08, 06:06 PM	#32 (permalink)
umalak_ Spurs > Mavs Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,842	uh yes they are. they can still put XP on the machines even though all the floor models have Vista on them. if you ask them to put XP on them then they can do so. if some store tells you no then you tell them to fuck off and go elsewhere. __________________ life is a b-movie it's stupid and it's strange it's a directionless story and the dialogue is lame but in the he said she said sometimes there's some poetry if you turn your back long enough and let it happen naturally oh, yeah hell yeah

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Tymeless Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: couch, TX Posts: 1,130 Blog Entries: 1	as a computer technician who used to work for Fry's, I know for a fact it all depended on the laptop you were trying to downgrade. We had sales people all the time promise that we could downgrade the laptop to xp for the simple cost of the operating system. Time and Time again, we ran into the problem of not finding all the drivers for the components in the laptop. I got SOME of them to take the downgrade but that was only after trial and error with 3rd party drivers and generic issues. It caused conflicts with other drivers and never really functioned properly. The laptops were unstable as hell, period. The only computer I was able to sucessfully install XP on that still had vista was an older Sony Viao, but it only took XP because it was an older computer with older xp compatible components... Oh, and a store does not HAVE to downgrade you. And you can go ahead and find another place that says they will. But when you have to go back and get it fixed time after time. You will wish you had just listened to the first store in the first place. Do what I did, Buy a Macbook __________________ DJ Sound and Lighting DJs, Sound, Lights, all at reasonable rates! send us an email with any inquiries: djsoundandlighting@gmail.com We have everything needed for your next event. Afterlife Sound Guy - The Bald one. http://www.myspace.com/tymeless http://www.theslackerslounge.com

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02-09-08, 05:38 PM	#31 (permalink)
Jean-Luc Dickhard Snitch Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 16,447	haha, they aren't required to do anything except sell the advertised equipment complete

02-09-08, 06:12 PM	#33 (permalink)
Jean-Luc Dickhard Snitch Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 16,447	but what you stated is that they are required. they don't have to do that.

02-09-08, 06:15 PM	#34 (permalink)
F.N.A. Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denton Posts: 681	It can indeed mess with your wireless drivers. I found this out the hard way.

02-09-08, 10:41 PM	#35 (permalink)
MC Twinkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: I'm always fresh and full of cream filling! Posts: 1,730	Pick a laptop you want, and then before you buy it see if you can download the XP drivers from the website. IF you can, buy it. IF not, then dont buy. Or, you could just get a 20$ wifi USB or pcmica card.

07-23-08, 10:36 PM	#36 (permalink)
Jean-Luc Dickhard Snitch Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 16,447	foxfire?

07-24-08, 08:19 AM	#44 (permalink)
Jean-Luc Dickhard Snitch Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 16,447	Brah, don't even play me like that.