Abortion = Art?

[hepkatmama]

those fluxus ppl make some icky stuff. there was one shown in either london or chicago where this chick saved up all her used maxipads & did this whole domino effect looking installation with them all over the floor.

another smelly piece i conveniently didn't see.

do not like the stinky.

[PETA]

Originally Posted by hepkatmama

those fluxus ppl make some icky stuff. there was one shown in either london or chicago where this chick saved up all her used maxipads & did this whole domino effect looking installation with them all over the floor.

another smelly piece i conveniently didn't see.

do not like the stinky.

yah,.... was it yoko that did the vagina painting? She took a brush, inserted, and then sorted squat walked around a canvas... not really art imo... just stupidity... but it takes all kinds I guess

[hepkatmama]

this thread makes me think of the movie bucket of blood from the 50's. this dorky waiter wants to hang out with the artsy beatniks, who blow him off.

he accidentally kills a cat and covers it in clay and when he shows it at the coffee shop they are all impressed and he makes money & get a gallery gig...

which he has to make more art for [insert evil laugh here]

(i should mention its an old roger corman movie)

[tautfest]

Originally Posted by Pi Eta Alpha

Art is on some ill experimentation shit right now not to long ago a artist named Guillermo Vargas starved this dog to death as part of his installation

ART is not on some ill experimental shit right now....b/c both installations you are referring to are not art. They are shock and awe acts, and they're bullshit.

See, this is what happens when a couple fucking retards do some distasteful, nasty offensive shit and call it art - the art scene, as a whole, gets a bad rap. What a shame.

[PETA]

there's a tv show (not Twilight Zone but of that ilk) where a guy is using blood to make paintings.... his wife gets ill.... he needs lots of cash to hire a specialist. His buyer is willing to poney up the cash for one more masterpiece in blood. The guy kills this man in a parkinglot to get the blood... he gets the money... then finds out he killed the surgeon his wife needed

[Jess]

no wonder both sides of the abortion argument are shocked. most pro-choice believers advocate a woman's choice if she ever finds herself in a situation that is unplanned. not a woman purposely getting pregnant over and over with the full intention of aborting each pregnancy. we all know what the pro-life stance would be on this.

i personally could not stomach going to or supporting an exhibit where you watch videos of forced miscarriages displayed on the blood that came from them.

[Roos]

Originally Posted by xian

there's a tv show (not Twilight Zone but of that ilk) where a guy is using blood to make paintings.... his wife gets ill.... he needs lots of cash to hire a specialist. His buyer is willing to poney up the cash for one more masterpiece in blood. The guy kills this man in a parkinglot to get the blood... he gets the money... then finds out he killed the surgeon his wife needed

Outer Limits I think.


Man, I got through about 4 sentences of that article and stopped reading it.

[PETA]

She is a poster child for the nightmares of the pro-life camp. She's a poster child for their cause. She's a real life nightmare for for pro-choice advocates because, as you said, she got pregnant so that she could kill her babies. That's not at all the reason pro-choice advocates defend the legality of abortion. It is horrific. Half hoping this was reprinted without attribution from the Onion.

[DataBass]

Personally I like the message she is sending with this art:

FUCK YOU! I'LL KILL AS MANY BABIES AS I WANT AND YOU CAN'T DO SHIT ABOUT IT!

[PETA]

lol - You can't catch me... I'm fucking innocent

[DataBass]

There is nothing sweeter that REALLY pissing people off when they are helpless to do anything about it. Gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.

[BrandonWhat]

Questionable, even to me, but beautifully innovative nonetheless, at least in concept; actually, I think reading a fictional piece about such an artist would've better sufficed than actually executing the idea, but I say that only because there's little to no way at all that this installation could ever invoke the reaction she's anticipated. The causality is more predictable than Serrano's "Piss Christ" was--and "Piss Christ" was far more beautiful in both design and execution and even had an effective political role to consequently play once it met the public.

Still doesn't sway me from my stance that an artist should leave her morals at the door when engaging in a project.

[PETA]

Originally Posted by BrandonWhat

Questionable, even to me, but beautifully innovative nonetheless, at least in concept; actually, I think reading a fictional piece about such an artist would've better sufficed than actually executing the idea, but I say that only because there's little to no way at all that this installation could ever invoke the reaction she's anticipated. The causality is more predictable than Serrano's "Piss Christ" was--and "Piss Christ" was far more beautiful in both design and execution and even had an effective political role to consequently play once it met the public.

Still doesn't sway me from my stance that an artist should leave her morals at the door when engaging in a project.

There's little beautiful about aborted babies squished between pieces of plastic nor of a crucifix dunked in a jar of piss... it is intended to insult. Some consider it art. I consider it insulting stupidity.

[tautfest]

Originally Posted by xian

There's little beautiful about aborted babies squished between pieces of plastic nor of a crucifix dunked in a jar of piss... it is intended to insult. Some consider it art. I consider it insulting stupidity.

agreed.

[BrandonWhat]

Originally Posted by xian

One may spin or slant it however one wishes... there is nothing about this that is any way defensible (not even remotely suggesting you were defending)

That's absurdly arbitrary, Xian. There's no possible polemical defense for this? Because you deem it immoral?